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What will test do for someone who doesn't need it?

cyrex

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Ok so this guy I work with is about 6'2" and around 280lbs or so (or that's what he says).

He's probably around 35-40% bf but has been working out for the last month or so. He is from texas and has a frat brother who can get him some gear. He is set on using some Eq and test.

I have been trying to tell him not to, but he does not seem to want to listen.

There are a number of things he is doing wrong like no plants for PCT, only planning on doing it for 5 weeks or so and I don't think he realizes how badly he needs to adjust his diet.

ALL OF THAT ASIDE:

how would someone who does it the right way (diet, cycle, pct, workouts, etc) but at the wrong stage (6'2" 280lbs with 40% bf) react to a test/eq stack for 10-12 weeks with proper PCT.

What could he expect?

Let's leave aside the fact that he really should get his bf down and train for a few years first.
 
Totally bad idea,i'm a 54 yr old vet and i can tell you that crap like this is what gives the media fuel for the fire, first of all his BP will go up because he is not in shape,risking a heart attack or stroke,not having a solid several yrs training i can sure bet he will injure something, not to mention Gyno (bitch tits) if he doesn't have those already ,then prepair for a double D size!

Other than that.....he should look like a champ!

RADAR
 
haha
I've already tried to tell him that, but what would happen if he did it the right way? Any gains? any fat loss?
 
cyrex said:
haha
I've already tried to tell him that, but what would happen if he did it the right way? Any gains? any fat loss?
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no gains besides having any lack of proper diet to build muscle.....AAS is not a miracle worker ,theres alot of bro's here who post pictures HGH, Test ,Deca ect and they still look like shit! I'm serious.

RADAR
 
hehe RADAR i love your persistance.

What i'm asking is what would happen if he did get his diet in check while on the cycle. Did train how he should on the cycle and all of that jazz...
still do nothing?
 
cyrex said:
hehe RADAR i love your persistance.

What i'm asking is what would happen if he did get his diet in check while on the cycle. Did train how he should on the cycle and all of that jazz...
still do nothing?
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it makes no sense to get his diet in check while on cycle, what a waste..just take the money he intended to spend on the cycle and just send it to me and ill put it to better use.......
 
haha

I don't like this guy much. He is a salesman at my company. Where he is the salesman, I'm the one in charge of all the people that have to provide the service that he sells and he has a tendancy to sell more than what we should be providing.
I've warned him 3 times not to do it and given him some great reasons why, but I think I'm done. I'll let him waste his money and have a heart attack. At least I warned him
 
Worst case scenario is that he comes out of the damn cycle at the same weight losing 20 lbs of fat and gaining 20 lbs of muscle and I look like a complete tard for telling him it won't work.
 
cyrex said:
Worst case scenario is that he comes out of the damn cycle at the same weight losing 20 lbs of fat and gaining 20 lbs of muscle and I look like a complete tard for telling him it won't work.
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i hope he understands that he has a better chance of seeing god then what you proposed above......
 
cyrex said:
Worst case scenario is that he comes out of the damn cycle at the same weight losing 20 lbs of fat and gaining 20 lbs of muscle and I look like a complete tard for telling him it won't work.
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Worst case scenario? This guy is not gonna do a 40lb swap bro. I'll put all my karma on it. And some primo.
 
Aside from all the health risks RADAR mentions, he probably wouldn't see much results. He has too much BF, it is covering his muscles with a thick layer, hiding all progress made. He will just puff up a little and still look quite fat.

In addition to that, the test will make him more aggressive, which he may or may not be able to handle. Adding to that, with no anti-estrogens, his estrogen levels will soar and he'll also get a good case of PMS. Aggressive AND moody!

Basically it won't be pretty. I would continue to stand firmly against his use of AAS.
 
it's just funny how some people just assume that if they inject juice and do absoulutly nothing it's going to turn them into some type of beast like a magic potion
 
Bump that scout. I don't know how many people argued with me that steroids are like a magical pill you swallow and then you turn into a ragin roid head, ripped and vascualr. This guy needs help, and steroids aren't the answer for what he really needs.
 
cyrex said:
Ok so this guy I work with is about 6'2" and around 280lbs or so (or that's what he says).

He's probably around 35-40% bf but has been working out for the last month or so. He is from texas and has a frat brother who can get him some gear. He is set on using some Eq and test.

I have been trying to tell him not to, but he does not seem to want to listen.

There are a number of things he is doing wrong like no plants for PCT, only planning on doing it for 5 weeks or so and I don't think he realizes how badly he needs to adjust his diet.

ALL OF THAT ASIDE:

how would someone who does it the right way (diet, cycle, pct, workouts, etc) but at the wrong stage (6'2" 280lbs with 40% bf) react to a test/eq stack for 10-12 weeks with proper PCT.

What could he expect?

Let's leave aside the fact that he really should get his bf down and train for a few years first.
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Your best bet is to put the guy on a CKD, bodyopus style diet and watch him like a hawk. If you want dieting advise, send him to the diet forum.
 
I don't know his goals. All i know is he was talking about getting some AAS from and old frat bro.

I should tell him to do what i did :-)

I did CKD for a bit, lots of cardio. I went from 300 down to 240 in the last year.
Hell i even had a post somewhere on this forum where I posted a pic for my progress from just 8 days.
 
let him do whatever the hell he wants, after he takes the stuff and wastes his money at least it'll be a wakeup call that juice is worthless without the right genetics deit and training.

actually he'll probably complain he got 'fake' gear and do a 4g a week cycle next time, 'just to be sure'...
 
Even if he gained 20lbs of solid muscle and lost 5lbs of fat he would still look like a big fat sack of shit!! And we both know he is not gonna be that lucky.
 
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I dont understand why is is more concerned with doing AAS, and getting "mad jacked" then loosing weight. If he actually thought it out, he would realize that dropping his body fat would look 10x better then him doing a cycle.

I can picture him doing a delt shot with one krispy kreme in hand, talking on his nextel speaker phone to a buddy about the new Iron Chef battle while his needle is all bent and his syringe is overdosed.
 
RADAR said:
Totally bad idea,i'm a 54 yr old vet and i can tell you that crap like this is what gives the media fuel for the fire, first of all his BP will go up because he is not in shape,risking a heart attack or stroke,not having a solid several yrs training i can sure bet he will injure something, not to mention Gyno (bitch tits) if he doesn't have those already ,then prepair for a double D size!

Other than that.....he should look like a champ!

RADAR
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Add ...
His penis will be erect all the time, especially at work (nice picture?) ...
Or ...
It will shrivel up.
 
RADAR said:
Totally bad idea,i'm a 54 yr old vet and i can tell you that crap like this is what gives the media fuel for the fire, first of all his BP will go up because he is not in shape,risking a heart attack or stroke,not having a solid several yrs training i can sure bet he will injure something, not to mention Gyno (bitch tits) if he doesn't have those already ,then prepair for a double D size!

Other than that.....he should look like a champ!

RADAR
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I totally agree with Radar.
 
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