What to stack with T.E. for beginner?

[bigman75]

I have 8 t.e. (planning on 1/wk for 8 weeks) and I'm wondering what would go best with it for a good mass cycle for a beginner?

 

[mattu3743]

stats bro, we need some stats from you before anybody could help, please read stickies before posting bro

And welcome to E.F. you came to the right place

 

[silent says]

Welcome Bigman.

 

[Ezekiel]

I have 8 t.e. (planning on 1/wk for 8 weeks) and I'm wondering what would go best with it for a good mass cycle for a beginner?

Welcome to EF!

Like mattu said we needs your stats.

age
years lifting
Diet
Goals etc.

What is you Test E dosed @? ie. 100/mg or 250/mg ?

 

[bigman75]

Thanks for the welcome. My stats/goals:
Age: 33
Lifting 8 years
5'10" / 230 low bodyfat (slightly visible abs, no gut, all around definition I would rate "good")
Benching 365# Dealifting 495# Squatting 600#
Looking to add 20 pounds then cut down to a SOLID 220
Diet is solid, cook my own meals to bring to work, etc. High protein plus ISOPURE and Designer Whey as well as Gaspari SizeOn

The Test E is 250mg and I can get more anytime.
Is 250/wk for 8 weeks enough?
Some say 10 weeks is better and at 500mg at my size but I'm trying to see how I react to it before I go up anymore.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Thanks for the welcome. My stats/goals:
Age: 33
Lifting 8 years
5'10" / 230 low bodyfat (slightly visible abs, no gut, all around definition I would rate "good")
Benching 365# Dealifting 495# Squatting 600#
Looking to add 20 pounds then cut down to a SOLID 220
Diet is solid, cook my own meals to bring to work, etc. High protein plus ISOPURE and Designer Whey as well as Gaspari SizeOn

The Test E is 250mg and I can get more anytime.
Is 250/wk for 8 weeks enough?
Some say 10 weeks is better and at 500mg at my size but I'm trying to see how I react to it before I go up anymore.

Welcome to EF

Is this your first cycle?

 

[bigman75]

Yes. I've run small stuff like clen before, but this is my first REAL cycle.

 

[JayColeman]

D-BOL 25mg ED for 5 weeks

 

[growinsc]

i would prefer 500ew and dbols would be a great kickstart. GOODLUCK hit it hard whatever you decide and you will be pleased!

 

[deepveinthromb]

decadecadecadecadeca

 

[bigman75]

I considered deca but the question is: The whole time or just certain weeks?
I've heard mixed reviews on Dbol mainly about adding a lot of excess bloat but how much of the gains can I plan on keeping after the water sheds? Less than 30% ?

 

[cuts82]

I considered deca but the question is: The whole time or just certain weeks?
I've heard mixed reviews on Dbol mainly about adding a lot of excess bloat but how much of the gains can I plan on keeping after the water sheds? Less than 30% ?

Stick to your first plan test by itself for 10 weeks and at your size 500mg would be a nice dose, also man what pct you got lined up? you got some adex on hand for on cycle estro problems?

 

[sweed]

500mgs test e will be enough for a first cycle! 10-12 weeks. thats it, keep it simple. As long as training and diet are there you will grow and will be happy with just that! Leave additional AS for a 2nd cycle.

 

[bigman75]

OK, I'll see if I can get more to bump to 500/wk before I start next week. I have clomid and nolvadex already, adex no. Should I hold off from starting until I can get adex?

 

[Ezekiel]

OK, I'll see if I can get more to bump to 500/wk before I start next week. I have clomid and nolvadex already, adex no. Should I hold off from starting until I can get adex?

Yes.... I would.. It's easy enough to get.. rxhealthdrugs.com (board sponser) and mention that you're from EF and you'll get
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[AAP]

Ok, seeing that you are lean. (big importance)

You would get better gains off test / dbol than someone who had higher BF% would.

For a first cycle, 250mg weekly + 30mg dbol daily will do you good. I mean, you made it this far without roids already right? So it isn't like you are going to need a huge dose of AAS for your first cycle.

Just remember - seeing you are looking for mass - to boost your daily calories FIRST by raising the protein and the healthy fats. Let the carbs be the last source of additional calories that you need.

 

[617ricky]

OK, I'll see if I can get more to bump to 500/wk before I start next week. I have clomid and nolvadex already, adex no. Should I hold off from starting until I can get adex?

If it's your 1st cycle you really could just do the 250mg a week. And with that low of a dose, it's doubtful you'd need any adex, especially since you have nolva already in the rare case anything like gyno does happen