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What the hell's going on? I need some serious advice!HELP!

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WORLDBEATER

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3 mths ago I finished my deca only cycle (300mg/wk x 10wks). Had no sides from the one a year before. This was only my second cycle ever. I am 5'10 195 at about 8%bf. I went to my primary care doc yesterday to get checked out because of decreased libido over the last month and some impotence. Increased hair loss as well. I was positive the problem wasn't with my test. I have maintained my strength from the cycle, although have decreased my training volume, and my bodyfat has not risen significantly although somewhat, I contribute most of this to pizza everyday though and less cardio. I mean I am still benching 350, squatting 405 and at no more than 8-9% bf (up from 5-6% post cycle. Anyways the doc suspected low test, he took blood, and calls me back today and tells me my testosterone levels are half what they should be (I am not sure about the units but it was like 110 while the normal test was 200???). He tells me just too see him back in 3-4 mths and if things haven't worked themselves out by then we will have to do test injections.
What the fuck? I don't want to walk around another 4 mths with the test levels of a 60yr old man, I fuckin 24. I can't understand it. 300mg/wk followed by 300/100/50 pyramid of clomid. Followed it to the tee.
Help me out guys do I seek a second opinion. I can't believe it. Should I start clomid again.
 
bump......

somebody help a brotha out....
 
Try FUZU (Syntrax). It works great. After about 4 or 5 days, you will notice a big improvement. 1 or 2 capsules 3 times daily. I took it for the first time in July and was very impressed.
 
Worldbeater,
Did you use clomid post cycle for recovery. One of the big knocks on Deca is that it shuts HPTA down for so long. If you didn't use clomid then recovery can take more than three months. You will recover but I suggest you take some clomid now and try to jump start your HPTA recovery.
 
WORLDBEATER said:
That's a good idea harmonic if I want to continue on it indefinitely.
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Hmm, maybe try 50mg of clomid every day for the next month or so, and then go back to see if you natural test produtcion is back up to par...

Basically the doctor already told you that you'll need to go on test suplementation if it doesn't work itself out.. So maybe just try the clomid thing for a while, and if that ends up not working, than take advantage of the free test prescription.. I personally don't think being on test for the "rest of you life" would necessarily be a bad thing at all..
 
Anybody else think I should go with clomid therapy again. Shit I finished clomid therapy post cycle in mid june. You would think that I would be back to natural levels by now regardless, even if the clomid therapy didn't kick start my test.
 
I'm new to cycling, so I hope this isn't too dumb of a question. Is there any chance that there was a problem with the Clomid (like bogus or underdosed)???
 
no.. the problem wasn't with the clomid... the problem was the deca.. deca shuts you down so hard and has such a long lasting ester that it makes recovery difficult as many follow normal clomid therapy techniques after deca and stop their clomid therapy before true hpta recovery has been reached..
 
That is a possibility numberfive but my source is pretty reliable. If it is the case though there would be no use for me to take anymore clomid because the sixty tabs I have left are from the same guy.
 
just an important side note(no blast to you Worldbeater)...but this is why most people dont recommend a Deca only cycle....a decreased libido sucks bad....i learned my lesson with a fina only cycle..Fumunda
 
decem, should I hit the clomid again. Man my hair is going fast. I thought I understood the endocrine system well, but I didn't know of the correlation between low test levels and hair loss. My primary care physician said this was the reason for the dramatic hair loss but on the other hand I am not real trusting in him. His care is definitely old school. He was pulling shit out of his ass. He at one point told me to start taking centrum and some vitamin a and he kept referring to DHEA and andro as steroids. He said creatine was harmful.
 
fumunda I had no problems the first cycle. Maybe the difference was the first time around I was bulking and this time I was cutting. I got cut for sure but I had no idea this would happen three to four months later. I thought I was in the clear a month or two out.
 
Legit clomid q

Your clomid Q is a legit on.
Did the Clomid seem good. Were you like a chick on PMS while you did the clomid? If this is a second Deca cycle within a year it might take a while. I'm sure you've heard the term Deca-dick. Sounds like a classic case. Try another two weeks of clomid, if you're pretty sure it's legit. I would also try getting 10,000 iu's of HCG couldn't hurt.
Also you might try doing Test. Do a three week cycle of Prop if possible, then hit the HCG with a 100mg of clomid, then do the 2 weeks of clomid therepy. Then if possible another 10000iu's of hcg.
Now a quick question for you. Any reason you do only Deca on your cycles. If your short on clomid drop me an email and I'll give you some.

Asta

Email is gone cause I don't want Jackasses e-mailing me thinking I'm a source for anything, even clomid. I was offering to give it to him to help a bro in need.
 
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Ooops

Sorry, I didn't get to see the thread where you said the clomid was cool. I'm a hunt and peck typer so a lot happens while I'm trying to reply.

Astta
 
First cycle I got good results with my deca only cycle. Went from 190lbs at 10%bf to 220 at 12%bf. Maintained 215 for a year and no sides. I couldn't ask for more than that at 300mg/wk. Why not go for it again.
 
don't worry

Don't worry bro, you react to deca the same way I do, I did mine with 400 mg of enathate and I still couldn't get a nut for months. You should return to normal after a while. Next time add some test in there.
 
Hulk did you lose a significant amount of muscle waiting it out. Should I just wait it out or hit the clomid again. I am suprised I have maintained the amount of muscle thus far under the present conditions.
 
Worldbeater,
Two weeks after deca shot isn't long enough to wait before starting Clomid. Generally I stop Deca three weeks before test and then run Clomid two weeks after my last test shot and run clomid for three weeks. I am sure you used your clomid while the Deca was still very active in your system and therefore never had a real jump start to your HPTA. I would suggest you run some low level Prop for about three weeks and then start clomid again one week after last prop shot. This will help bring your test levels up some, will have a very short half life, and will give you the opportunity to start clomid therapy properly.
 
I would continue clomid therapy, 50mg daily until the test levels return to normal. This may take a while. In the meantime, get another blood test after four weeks of clomid therapy. You've got to get your Test Levels back to normal; otherwise, you will be on Test supplementation for life. Email me if you need help here.
 
Thanks everyone for your comments. I think I will run the clomid again. I would run test but I don't have access to it at this point. The amount of real world experience on this board is amazing. The knowledge found on this board is something that can't be found in any textbook. I appreciate your time. One more question though. How long and at what dose do I run the clomid? 50mg/day for 4wks?
 
50mg daily until test levels return.....need periodic blood testing (at least monthly) to check test levels.
 
Test levels

Here's the basic deal dude, I'm sorry it happened, but deca is a long based ester that can remain in your system month after your use. The only thing I can really recomend is the use of Clomid, but that only suppresses the formation of estrogen be converted, and only increases test slowly. Try some ZMA, and some HCG. I personally would try a low level cycle avoiding deca.
But hey that's just me, Good Luck
Lord_Suston
 
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