what is wrong with this cycle??

[herraisland]

can you tell me what is wrong with this cycle??
week 1-4 50mg dbol ED
week 1-10 500mgs test-e
week 1-10 400mgs deca
week 10-16 100mgs test prop EOD
week 10-16 100mgs tren ace EOD

?

 

[bgriffin989]

What's ur stats? Diet? Training? Pct? Support supps? Need alot of info.

 

[herraisland]

What's ur stats? Diet? Training? Pct? Support supps? Need alot of info.

22 years old
187lbs
5.8 ft
its not my cycle. Im plannig to do my third cycle and i was thinking if its stupid to change over to test prop from test-e with the tren ace?

 

[kc17]

can you tell me what is wrong with this cycle??
week 1-4 50mg dbol ED
week 1-10 500mgs test-e
week 1-10 400mgs deca
week 10-16 100mgs test prop EOD
week 10-16 100mgs tren ace EOD

?

stick to your original plan as mixing Deca and tren is a very dvanced cycle and not recommended and at your age even less as recovery will be hard and long you might experience Ed for a while .that cycle is usually for the guys on HRT !!!!!

do the dbol test deca , run test for 12 weeks instead of 10 and try to get some cabergoline or prami and run it twice a week along . hold the tren for when you have more cycles and experience. good luck

 

[herraisland]

stick to your original plan as mixing Deca and tren is a very dvanced cycle and not recommended and at your age even less as recovery will be hard and long you might experience Ed for a while .that cycle is usually for the guys on HRT !!!!!

do the dbol test deca , run test for 12 weeks instead of 10 and try to get some cabergoline or prami and run it twice a week along . hold the tren for when you have more cycles and experience. good luck

thanks for the advice. i was planning to just do a clean test-e cycle for now @500mg a week(12weeks), except im going to use 50mg dbol ED for 5 weeks.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Is this your first time?

 

[herraisland]

Is this your first time?

No this is going to be my third cycle.

1cycle:
500mgs sustanon 10weeks
30mg dbol 4 weeks
22lbs gained
2.cycle
500mg test-e 12weeks
400mg deca 10weeks
40mg dbol 4weeks
16lbs gained

 

[RickRock13]

I wouldn't use Deca ever at all, and I don't know why anyone else would either....but that's me.

Definitely not Tren and Deca though. That has disaster written all over it

Test, Deca, dbol is a very popular stack though if you want to go the Deca route

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Then I would simplify it a little.


Just pick a test ester, OR use the prop as a kickstart 100mg EOD for 4 weeks with the dbol.
Some dont like test as a kick start, I do.

if you tolerated your first two cycles without issue then I doubt you would have an issue with 100mg eod of tren ace. I definatley wouldnt mix tren and deca at this point.

Maybe after week 4 stopping test p and dbol run the tren a for 6-7 weeks.


187 is pretty good size for 5'8" BUT.....what do you look like ...BF% wise? If you know how to eat and train and do proper PCT one would think you are built like a tank. Sadly what usually happens in this case is that guys like yourself post previous cycles like yours that are stout cycles then post a pic that looks like they just started working out. NOW....we know dick about you....so we dont know if this is the case of not AND...im not saying this is you. But give us some insight into your training and diet and what your after with this cycle.

 

[herraisland]

I wouldn't use Deca ever at all, and I don't know why anyone else would either....but that's me.

Definitely not Tren and Deca though. That has disaster written all over it

Test, Deca, dbol is a very popular stack though if you want to go the Deca route

Can you tell me why you dont like deca? just curious. Yeah i was thinking about just doing 500mgs of test and 40-50mg of d-bol, i want minimun sides because you barley cant find any s.e.r.m.s or AI's for pct here where i am staying. But i got ahold of 30x 20mg nolvadex which i am going to keep for the next cycle.

Do you guys think i will get some decent gains on my third cycle by using 500mg of test e(12 weeks) and 40-50mg of dbol ED for 5weeks? ofcourse my diet is going to be good and training.

 

[dylangemelli]

Can you tell me why you dont like deca? just curious. Yeah i was thinking about just doing 500mgs of test and 40-50mg of d-bol, i want minimun sides because you barley cant find any s.e.r.m.s or AI's for pct here where i am staying. But i got ahold of 30x 20mg nolvadex which i am going to keep for the next cycle.

Do you guys think i will get some decent gains on my third cycle by using 500mg of test e(12 weeks) and 40-50mg of dbol ED for 5weeks? ofcourse my diet is going to be good and training.

i hope that you are not insinuating you would use nolva with deca my friend... that is the worst thing that you could do...

you can get gains on a test only cycle if your training hard and eating right... so yes, you can get good gains on just test and dbol...

 

[herraisland]

Then I would simplify it a little.


Just pick a test ester, OR use the prop as a kickstart 100mg EOD for 4 weeks with the dbol.
Some dont like test as a kick start, I do.

if you tolerated your first two cycles without issue then I doubt you would have an issue with 100mg eod of tren ace. I definatley wouldnt mix tren and deca at this point.

Maybe after week 4 stopping test p and dbol run the tren a for 6-7 weeks.


187 is pretty good size for 5'8" BUT.....what do you look like ...BF% wise? If you know how to eat and train and do proper PCT one would think you are built like a tank. Sadly what usually happens in this case is that guys like yourself post previous cycles like yours that are stout cycles then post a pic that looks like they just started working out. NOW....we know dick about you....so we dont know if this is the case of not AND...im not saying this is you. But give us some insight into your training and diet and what your after with this cycle.

Me
http://www.freeimagehostingnet/m2xhe[img/]

Im not sure how much lbs im in first one. im guessing about 143.lbs(65kg). that was before i started to build me up more seriously. and to the right is a about 5-6 week old picture of me about 182lbs(83kg) im now about 187lbs (84-85kg).

ps. I know these are not great picture. im on my laptop at work. I got better pics on my pc at home. will post them as soon as i can.

 

[herraisland]

i hope that you are not insinuating you would use nolva with deca my friend... that is the worst thing that you could do...

you can get gains on a test only cycle if your training hard and eating right... so yes, you can get good gains on just test and dbol...

no i wont because of the prolactin/progesterone... do you know how long deca and tren ace is active in your body, after taking it?

 

[dylangemelli]

no i wont because of the prolactin/progesterone... do you know how long deca and tren ace is active in your body, after taking it?

tren ace is a very short ester and can be out of your system very quickly... deca can show up 18 months later on tests... it definitely stays in your system for a long time

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Me
http://www.freeimagehostingnet/m2xhe[img/]

Im not sure how much lbs im in first one. im guessing about 143.lbs(65kg). that was before i started to build me up more seriously. and to the right is a about 5-6 week old picture of me about 182lbs(83kg) im now about 187lbs (84-85kg).

ps. I know these are not great picture. im on my laptop at work. I got better pics on my pc at home. will post them as soon as i can.[/QUOTE]

Even though the image didnt show up for me props to you for posting a pic!!!

if you want to go minimal sides (even though the liver would get stressed and you need lots of support for that) you could go 500mg test (test p even better for less bloat and hitting you faster) then dbol for first 4-5 weeks follewed by Var for the remainder of the cycle.
Again....this isnt the most advisable thing because its orals for an extended period. Other than the liver stress, it would be great.

OR.....100-125mg Test P EOD and 100mg proviron ED throughout (non methylated wont kill your liver). Then add Var the last 6-8 weeks.




Deca really is outdated crap bro. Very very few people do really well on it. SOme guys dont have libido and dick issues nor do they blow up with water like everyone else. But thats extremely few and far between.
You might want to look into NPP if your super in love with deca.

 

[John McLane]

can you tell me what is wrong with this cycle??
week 1-4 50mg dbol ED
week 1-10 500mgs test-e
week 1-10 400mgs deca
week 10-16 100mgs test prop EOD
week 10-16 100mgs tren ace EOD

?

Too muuch, just much too much. Listen to what other people are saying - stay away from Deca and Tren, and NEVER take them together. Why don't you just take Test Cyp 500 mg a week for 12 weeks?

 

[herraisland]

Here is the image of me i promised to post btw. On the left the picture was taken late 2011.