What is the best cycle you have done with NO sides and good gains.

[Arabian]

I know as most of us experiment with different compounds , side effects can ruin the gains and enhancement of the cycle however what has been your best cycle for gains and NO to low side effects. I mean what have you done that has not caused you insomnia, anxiety, night sweats etc: Go

 

[Nelson Montana]

No cycle should cause those things. If you have sides, it means you're doing either too much, you're using bad stuff, you're on too long or/and you need to cut back or stop.

That's also why I'll never do anadrol or deca or vet gear. It just isn't worth the health risks when there are other alternatives.

No one ever had any problems with 200 mgs of test and 400 mgs of Primobolan for 6 weeks. So why doesn't everyone do what doesn't cause sides? It's usually ignorance or laziness. or both.

 

[Arabian]

No cycle should cause those things. If you have sides, it means you're doing either too much, you're using bad stuff, you're on too long or/and you need to cut back or stop.

That's also why I'll never do anadrol or deca or vet gear. It just isn't worth the health risks when there are other alternatives.

No one ever had any problems with 200 mgs of test and 400 mgs of Primobolan for 6 weeks. So why doesn't everyone do what doesn't cause sides? It's usually ignorance or laziness. or both.

Exactly, or the lack of knowledge of the gear they are using. I am with you with the low doses. I think if one gets use to making gains on a TRT dose then firs they keep more of the gains and it forces people to actually train properly. I have never run Primo due to the fakes being passed for EQ. Do you run your Primo for 16 or 20 weeks?

 

[northernknight]

8 weeks of Sustanon and Deca. It was my second blast ever, so decided to try Deca stacked upon test. Not sure I remember the lenght of cycle right, it has been quite a while

I don't really seem to get much sides from 19nors unlike some people, never had any problems with deca/fina-dick etc. It was only after I had already ran Deca at least twice, Nandrolone Base and NPP both once, that I red first time about all the horrible sides you get from Deca, LOL!Psygolical aspect propably plays a factor with at least part of sides IMO, so I'm actually glad I tried it myself when Deca was still usually recommended by everybody as one of the AAS to start cycling with. Of course it doesn't work well with everybody, that's the case with everything. I guess that I'm just very lucky to be able run 19nors without loads of bad sides.

 

[Jbranken]

I agree. I've always avoided and probably will always avoid drugs like drol, tren, and deca. I know you (arabian) had great results with tren and npp. They work great for some guys and more power to you but I like keeping sides low and I have a really bad feeling that I wouldn't react well to them. I have enough trouble controlling bp and gyno flares as it is. Test, EQ, primo, mast, tbol, var and a few others are all safer options for a guy like me and still produce favorable results when applying diet and good work ethic

 

[northernknight]

No cycle should cause those things. If you have sides, it means you're doing either too much, you're using bad stuff, you're on too long or/and you need to cut back or stop.

That's also why I'll never do anadrol or deca or vet gear. It just isn't worth the health risks when there are other alternatives.

No one ever had any problems with 200 mgs of test and 400 mgs of Primobolan for 6 weeks. So why doesn't everyone do what doesn't cause sides? It's usually ignorance or laziness. or both.

True, I agree with low dosing protocol on everything, you can always adjust doses upward if needed. I will propably be running Primo and Mast in my next blast, as soon as I have made sure that the Primo I'm going to get is real deal.
How long Primo cycle would you recommend? I know dose should be 400-500 mgs week to Primo really shine, but how long should it be ran? I have only tried it once as taper before so I really don't have much experince about it.

 

[Arabian]

8 weeks of Sustanon and Deca. It was my second blast ever, so decided to try Deca stacked upon test. Not sure I remember the lenght of cycle right, it has been quite a while

I don't really seem to get much sides from 19nors unlike some people, never had any problems with deca/fina-dick etc. It was only after I had already ran Deca at least twice, Nandrolone Base and NPP both once, that I red first time about all the horrible sides you get from Deca, LOL!Psygolical aspect propably plays a factor with at least part of sides IMO, so I'm actually glad I tried it myself when Deca was still usually recommended by everybody as one of the AAS to start cycling with. Of course it doesn't work well with everybody, that's the case with everything. I guess that I'm just very lucky to be able run 19nors without loads of bad sides.

Very nice. I cant do Deca or most orals due to how extremely tired they make me however everyone is different. Good post

 

[Arabian]

I agree. I've always avoided and probably will always avoid drugs like drol, tren, and deca. I know you (arabian) had great results with tren and npp. They work great for some guys and more power to you but I like keeping sides low and I have a really bad feeling that I wouldn't react well to them. I have enough trouble controlling bp and gyno flares as it is. Test, EQ, primo, mast, tbol, var and a few others are all safer options for a guy like me and still produce favorable results when applying diet and good work ethic

Your right about the sides on Tren/ NPP however I always keep my doses low and If I start having sides I cut back even more. I think the key to running any cycle is to listen to your body. Unfortunately, not a lot of people are really in tune with what is making them tired have sides etc: because they stack many compounds together and they never actually know which one is the culprit.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Exactly, or the lack of knowledge of the gear they are using. I am with you with the low doses. I think if one gets use to making gains on a TRT dose then firs they keep more of the gains and it forces people to actually train properly. I have never run Primo due to the fakes being passed for EQ. Do you run your Primo for 16 or 20 weeks?

I have never in my life done a cycle longer than 6 weeks.

 

[MattJS]

Good post, I suppose the lowest sides and best gains I got were on low dose test stacked with nandrolone propionate and masteron, I don't cope well with extra estrogen so I avoid relying heavily on test etc (I know we have AIs easily available to play with but that adds an extra complication, whether the AI is properly dosed and so on) I do get a little insomnia from tren or NP however I wake up feeling refreshed anyway and my results tend to be much better with those compounds so I'm inclined to use them when I want a big result....

Nelson I don't like anadrol either, can I ask why do you not like deca? There seems to be a lot of deca haters, I've never used the decanoate ester but nandrolone propionate really impressed me... I'm gonna do the test deca dbol thing over the winter to try and gain some mass...