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What is more androgenic Test or Tren?

tommboy

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What is more androgenic Test or Tren? And anyone know like the ratio? Just curious about how the Tren acne is going to be compared to test.
 
tommboy said:
What is more androgenic Test or Tren? And anyone know like the ratio? Just curious about how the Tren acne is going to be compared to test.

2/3 Anabolic to androgenic ratio,meaning it is twice as anabolic,and 3 times as androgenic as testosterone.
 
you can add weight to the bar damn near every time you train on serious tren, but you know better than to do that.

slow and steady, my brother, slow and steady.
 
I heard anavar is more androgenic then test too (mg for mg) If this is the case then why doesnt anavar give worse acne then test??????
 
tommboy said:
I heard anavar is more androgenic then test too (mg for mg) If this is the case then why doesnt anavar give worse acne then test??????

It's more anabolic than test(in terms of stimulating net protein synthesis),but LESS androgenic.
 
Huckster said:
It's more anabolic than test(in terms of stimulating net protein synthesis),but LESS androgenic.


oh yes must have gotten those two confused now I understand why anavar is so great! It also blocks estrogen conversion so not bloat and bitch tits! That is why such great anabolic gains w/ out anabolic related sides
 
tommboy said:
oh yes must have gotten those two confused now I understand why anavar is so great! It also blocks estrogen conversion so not bloat and bitch tits! That is why such great anabolic gains w/ out anabolic related sides
I got a feeling we may be moving this to "Best Of"
 
Tren is my fav. by far! I had to hold myself back to only jump up 25lbs on my bench last cycle so i wouldn't injure myself again...
 
lol best of thread was pretty nice.

as for the actual rating, test anabolic/androgenic is 100/100
Tren is 500/500. So go from there.

Tren is for experienced users, which is not me. The mild, more anabolic AAS are for me tho.
 
Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic agents.

Neumann F.

When used in connection with animal production the term "anabolic agents" covers a wide range. Ther steroidal male and female sex hormones are included in this list, as are the nonsteroidal estrogens. For the clinician and for the endocrinologist, anabolics are only steroids chemically related to testosterone and 19-nortestosterone. Estrogens, though possessing anabolic properties, too, do not belong to this class. This paper will deal with anabolic agents in in the stricter sense of which mainly trenbolone acetate combined with hexestrol has been recommended for bull and heifer fattening. To consider possible consumer injury from ingestion of meat from anabolic agent treated animals, it is necessary to know the pharmacological properties of the agents, the doses producing certain effects or might produce, and the levels of residues in the meat. Trenbolone acetate will be compared with the following anabolic agents: methenolone acetate, methandrostenolone, nandrone, androstanazole, and 19-nortestosterone. The activity spectrum of trenbolone acetate is similar to that of 19-nortestosterone or those anabolics that are derived from 19-nortestosterone. The compound has about three times stronger androgenic effect than testosterone propionate. Its index of dissociation between anabolic/androgenic activity is 2--3. This index is 3--10 for the other anabolic agents. As regards the virilizing potency, trenbolone acetate is also on the top of the list. It seems that androgenicity and degree of virilization run paralle. The antigonadotropic activity (inhibition of ovulation and testicular growth) of trenbolone acetate exceeds that of testosterone propionate by the factor 3. The compound is not estrogenic and seemingly not or only weakly progestationally active. In principle, the androgenic activity (symptoms of virilization) as well as the antigonadotropic effect (disturbances of the menstrual cycle in women, inhibition of spermiogenesis in men) of trenbolone acetate might be noted. This risk, however, can be excluded by mere calculation. In rats, 0.1 mg/kg trenbolone acetate have an antigonadotropic effect. This corresponds to a daily dose of 5--7 mg in humans. By the same extrapolation, a daily human dose of 100 mg can be calculated for androgenic activity. Such factors of conversion are, of course, not precise because rats are much less sensitive to androgens and anabolics than humans. Thus, testosterone propionate is active only in daily doses of 10--20 mg. If in humans trenbolone acetate also has three times the activity of testosterone propionate, effects in man had to be counted with not less than a daily intake of 3--5 mg trenbolone acetate. The dose which is recommended for livestock fattening is 300 mg. IT can, therefore, be excluded almost with certainty that the meat would contain such large amounts of hormone residues.
 
When you look at the Vida ratings for various anabolic agents (from the classic book by Jules A. Vida, "Androgens and Anabolic Agents), you see Trenbolone with a rating of 500 in the anabolic and androgenic categories, and Testosterone with a rating of 100 in each of those categories.
 
anthony roberts said:
When you look at the Vida ratings for various anabolic agents (from the classic book by Jules A. Vida, "Androgens and Anabolic Agents), you see Trenbolone with a rating of 500 in the anabolic and androgenic categories, and Testosterone with a rating of 100 in each of those categories.


where do you find the vida ratings is there a site?
 
steelmass said:
Tren Ace bro... hit faster, clears faster and is more potent due to ester weight.

bad ass bro. gotta try that stuff in my next cycle!!! haha. thanks for the info dude.
 
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