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What is a non-starchy carb?

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muscleman1234

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Everywhere I look there are starchy carbs....yet in order to lose fat you need to obtain carbs from non-starch/non-sugar sources.

What are some carb-dense sources of non-starchy, non-sugary carbs?
 
jg1, the idea is not to reduce carb intake, just to make better selections of carbs (non-sugary, non-starchy) Obviously if you eat less you will lose weight (both fat and muscle)...

kentucky, I hope you're just kidding....for your sake...
 
kentucky, I hope you're just kidding....for your sake... [/B]
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Well I was just pointing out the obvious ones. Now that I feel like I'm challenged, I'll list all that I can think of...certain types of squash, artichokes, beets, carrots, corn, green peas, lima beans, okra, potato, pumpkin, rutabagas, sweet potato, turnips.


That's all I got.
 
muscleman1234 said:
jg1, the idea is not to reduce carb intake, just to make better selections of carbs (non-sugary, non-starchy) Obviously if you eat less you will lose weight (both fat and muscle)...
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Is that what the idea is?...............................
 
kentucky, I appreciate the responses, but I am trying to find calorie-dense carbs that are NOT starch. Are you listing starchy carbs or non-starch? as far as I know, potatoes are starch and peas are not, both are listed in your response, so I'm confused...

JG1, YES, that is MY idea.

Anyone have better responses?
 
What a helpful board this is...

Okay, I have an idea! Let's all talk about how much Test. we can shoot to make us big, even though we don't know the difference between what foods we shove down our throats! That ought to be a good topic....
 
Hey Muscleman,

Kentucky is right about green peas (they are a legume/bean which is a starchy carb). Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a non-starchy vegetable that is also calorie dense. Starch=calories plain and simple.
 
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Not everyone on this board shoots juice, smart-ass. AND in your first post you asked for carb-rich foods and you were answered in the second post.


If you are looking for caloire dense non-starcy carbs, then I think you are out of luck.

That would require that they have fat or protein, and veggies, just aren't known for fat and protein content. I think Broccoli has a small amount of protein in it, other than that spinach has 6/serving.

But none of this shit has fat, so your not gong to get many cals from ANY of it.
 
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Polyunsaturated Fat 3.38g

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Monounsaturated Fat 16.62g

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Sodium 17.3mg 1%

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Potassium 1036.3mg 30%

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Total Carbohydrate 12.78g 4%

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Dietary Fiber 8.65g 35%

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Alcohol 0g


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hey kentucky,

no, not everyone juices, but many would rather discuss that topic...and all I got was smartass responses to my post...

AND, I asked for calorie-dense, non-starchy carbs, and the reply of "green veggies" does not answer that question...

From your response, I don't think you understand the question. I'm asking for calorie-dense, non-starchy, non-sugary *CARBS* (not proteins or fats).

jerkbox,

I was thinking along those lines (whole grains) but are they not considered starches? If not, what carb category do they fall into?
 
Your question just doesn't make sense. Why not have starchy carbs, as long as they are low GI?

I thought you wanted carb dense VEGGIES(non starch, non sugar)


If you are going to eat Bread, which is rather high GI food, then why not eat starch ???
 
I am not sure what your goals are here, but I would think it might be better to focus on low gi v. high gi. If you are trying to do a very low carb diet than veggies are about the best you are going to do. If you are just trying to keep carbs at a more reasonable level, than focus on low gi carbs early in the day and try to stay away from high gi.

"yet in order to lose fat you need to obtain carbs from non-starch/non-sugar sources."
That is not a completely true statement. In order to lose fat you have to run some sort of calorie deficit. I have lost weight eating almost no carbs, and I have also lost weight focusing on eating low gi carbs only early in the day, or after working out.

Whole grains are a starchy carb, but they are a lower gi starchy carb. Slower conversion to glucose so they do not create an huge insulin spike right after they are eaten.

If you happen to find a calorie dense fibrous carb please let me know, I will buy them right away :)
 
I was under the impression most starch based carbs were high GI? Maybe not....

So, you're saying to focus on low GI carbs. Would eating low GI carbs give a similar effect to eating fibrous carbs (i.e. veggies) in terms of dieting?

If so, what are some calorie dense foods that are low glycemic?
 
Maybe if you tell us what diet you are planning to follow we could help with carb question. It really depends on the diet. What are your goals, and how are you planning to get there?
 
Just trying to eat "clean" (whatever that means)...

I would like to lose some bodyfat, but don't want to go as drastic as ketogenic dieting. I would just like to make better carb choices in my dieting, rather than the current potatoes, whole wheat bread, etc. Veggies have no calories, so I don't like them as a carb choice...
 
thanks kentucky...i always find those lists confusing though...everything seems to be high gi...

In addition, many of the same items have GI indicies anywhere from the low end all the way to the high end. for example, four different types of the SAME white potato have GI's from 30 to 75!

Oh well...
 
I know, I'm still CKDing it, so i don't have to worry about that now.

I know that sweet potatoes are always recommended by these guys in here for a low gi carb
 
msucleman, that's because everything is high GI. Even brown rice and whole wheat bread tends to be moderate GI, now low GI.

Now, back to the other question. Calorie dense low GI carbs? Cherries, applies, grapefruit (might want to limit those, since fructose should not be your first choice of carbs). Yogurt, beans, and milk are all calorie-dense low GI carbs as well. You can also change the gi of foods. Take brown rice, and add alot of olive oil and a few beans and some meat to it, and bam, you now have a low gi carb.

I'm a huge believer in low-carb diets, but there is the information you are seeking.
 
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