What if - tren or masteron

[Cardinal Slin]

I am just curios - if you had the choice between two substances, which would you choose?

The stats are:

If you were 255lbs and were at 10% BF - currently on hgh and insulin along with t3. Would you go for tren or masteron?

Aims:

Looking to gain some solid lean muscle 10-15lbs and drop bf further. diet is in check and test at 500mgs every 5 days also to be used!

Your thoughs

1: Masteron
2: Tren

 

[OneBreath]

You won't add a lot of mass with masteron, at least not 10-15 lbs. I think with what you are seeking tren would be best.

 

[eddymerckx]

not quite lean enough--well, maybe, for mast to make much of a difference in appearance much less it will not used to add that sort of weight--it is more likely to make your weight actually drop as you retain less water.

 

[hurricane]

tren imo .. much more powerful compound .. would be able to accomplish more with it .

 

[the elite addict]

sounds to me that based on your post, you use every and any compound that you can get your hands on. btw, if you are 255 you must b like 6'5 or better

 

[the_alcatraz]

Personally, I'm not a fan of Tren...I just think it's "dirty"

Masteron, I would compare to Primo...except much much cheaper.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Thank you guys. I didn't think the masteron would be 10-15lbs of straight muscle but I am also on 4-6iu of hgh daily, insulin and will also be on 500mgs every 5 days of enanthate.

The moment, the hgh, and t3 (even with the slin) is allowing me to drop some bf. I have come down from about 13/14% to approx 10%. Straight up my main concern is acne.


A little under 6,5 but not far off. HGH/Slin/t3 is a perfectly normal stack that would benefit much better with aas in there. Materon/test or tren/test is not so out of the ordinary.

If I could get my hands on anavar, I would be doing that instead at 70/80mgs daily.

Many people don't understand I live in a country where mail order is not possible and very limited to what is available

sounds to me that based on your post, you use every and any compound that you can get your hands on. btw, if you are 255 you must b like 6'5 or better

 

[the elite addict]

Thank you guys. I didn't think the masteron would be 10-15lbs of straight muscle but I am also on 4-6iu of hgh daily, insulin and will also be on 500mgs every 5 days of enanthate.

The moment, the hgh, and t3 (even with the slin) is allowing me to drop some bf. I have come down from about 13/14% to approx 10%. Straight up my main concern is acne.


A little under 6,5 but not far off. HGH/Slin/t3 is a perfectly normal stack that would benefit much better with aas in there. Materon/test or tren/test is not so out of the ordinary.

If I could get my hands on anavar, I would be doing that instead at 70/80mgs daily.

Many people don't understand I live in a country where mail order is not possible and very limited to what is available

I did not mean any disrespect.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I like the fact that Masteron gives clean gains and a nice strength increase.

 

[dabuffguy]

Thank you guys. I didn't think the masteron would be 10-15lbs of straight muscle but I am also on 4-6iu of hgh daily, insulin and will also be on 500mgs every 5 days of enanthate.

The moment, the hgh, and t3 (even with the slin) is allowing me to drop some bf. I have come down from about 13/14% to approx 10%. Straight up my main concern is acne.


A little under 6,5 but not far off. HGH/Slin/t3 is a perfectly normal stack that would benefit much better with aas in there. Materon/test or tren/test is not so out of the ordinary.

If I could get my hands on anavar, I would be doing that instead at 70/80mgs daily.

Many people don't understand I live in a country where mail order is not possible and very limited to what is available

Damn bro.

I would suggest you take that shit easy. If you are on GH, slin, t3 and are gonna be on 500mg test, I say just do that. Fuck tren and masteron for now. You got enough shit going on. If you are dropping BF, and adding lean mass, the addition of test alone will get you the extra mass you want without compromisin you progressive leannes, and be patient with your gains. Nobody gets huge over night, and you are already 255 lbs as it is.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I did not mean any disrespect.

None taken Sir

Just wanted to point out that.

I finished a cycle a little while back and my shoulder has been hurting so haven't been training chest or shoulders and have since lost a little muscle which is very depressing.

I wanted to get back on something to help speed the recovery up but also to try and prevent further loss of size.

Thought tren + test would be great - would take it easy in the gym but at least I would stop going down in the wrong weight

Unfortunately deca is not an option

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Damn bro.

I would suggest you take that shit easy. If you are on GH, slin, t3 and are gonna be on 500mg test, I say just do that. Fuck tren and masteron for now. You got enough shit going on. If you are dropping BF, and adding lean mass, the addition of test alone will get you the extra mass you want without compromisin you progressive leannes, and be patient with your gains. Nobody gets huge over night, and you are already 255 lbs as it is.

You know, I think you might or may possibly be sort of right.

I am a little depressed at the moment because I came off my cycle a little while back and shoulder pain is stopping me from training chest and shoulders and partial back so I have lost a little size and it's depressing the hell out of me!

Pain in the right shoulder has ceased but it is now in the left (it seems from my right that it lasted 3 weeks) so it could be the same for the left.

Who knows!

I may just try and get some propionate or not - not sure. I will look in to this.

From what traz is saying - masteron sounds great

Unfortunately, I must admit I am addicted

Thanks for the replies everyone

 

[dabuffguy]

You know, I think you might or may possibly be sort of right.

I am a little depressed at the moment because I came off my cycle a little while back and shoulder pain is stopping me from training chest and shoulders and partial back so I have lost a little size and it's depressing the hell out of me!

Pain in the right shoulder has ceased but it is now in the left (it seems from my right that it lasted 3 weeks) so it could be the same for the left.

Who knows!

I may just try and get some propionate or not - not sure. I will look in to this.

From what traz is saying - masteron sounds great

Unfortunately, I must admit I am addicted

Thanks for the replies everyone

I don't know how many times I've had the urge to just load up with every last thing I could get my hands on and try everything out. Sometimes, you have to take a step bck, look at and think about what you are actually doing and make responsible and snsible choices.

Don't forget ever that these drugs are extremly powerful and are not happy pills that just jack you up through the sky with muscle. You have to respect them or they can turn on you and you end up with health problems of some kind or another. Responsible use is possible and easily doable. Abuse is wher it gets ugly. Don't ever abuse these drugs.

 

[the elite addict]

Damn bro.

I would suggest you take that shit easy. If you are on GH, slin, t3 and are gonna be on 500mg test, I say just do that. Fuck tren and masteron for now. You got enough shit going on. If you are dropping BF, and adding lean mass, the addition of test alone will get you the extra mass you want without compromisin you progressive leannes, and be patient with your gains. Nobody gets huge over night, and you are already 255 lbs as it is.

+1, I must agree w dabuffguy for once.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Thanks people - the addition of lean mass is most definitely on my legs - not upper body but I think when I do get something it will be masteron and test and I will drop the hgh and insulin (it is costing me almost $100 an injection and I have just looked at my bank balance!).

I must have muscle dismorphyia and I am definitely addicted.

 

[letsrun4it]

255, 10% I Call bullshit.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Too much shit all at once IMO. Give your body some time and breathing space.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

255, 10% I Call bullshit.

Call it what you want, despite the fact I wasn't asking for your opinion.

255 @ 190+cm is really not anything special but as long as there is one of those guys in every thread that never replies to the question being asked but rather opens his mouth out of tune, I guess it would/should be you.

 

[the_alcatraz]

255, 10% I Call bullshit.

very classy...

Bro, please stay respectful at all times in the aas forums...

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Too much shit all at once IMO. Give your body some time and breathing space.

I hear you but I am sure you know what it's like, you finish a cycle and are looking to do the best for of pct/bridge possible and that would definitely IMO be slin/hgh and then protocol pct.

The problem is my shoulder/s and not being able to maintain or workout chest&shoulders and then losing some size in it. It is bad enough when you lose the water but when that's gone and you still left losing a bit more, it gets quite depressing - for me at least.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I hear you but I am sure you know what it's like, you finish a cycle and are looking to do the best for of pct/bridge possible and that would definitely IMO be slin/hgh and then protocol pct.

The problem is my shoulder/s and not being able to maintain or workout chest&shoulders and then losing some size in it. It is bad enough when you lose the water but when that's gone and you still left losing a bit more, it gets quite depressing - for me at least.

So let me ask you a question. How do you propose to solve this problem?

 

[Cardinal Slin]

So let me ask you a question. How do you propose to solve this problem?

Honestly, it is quite hard to say right now because I am not fully aware as to the cause of the problem although it did get worse at time of hgh use.

The pain first started in the right shoulder and lasted for approximately 3 wks, maybe a bit under. It then transferred over to the left shoulder and the right started getting better. I honestly don't even know if it is joint pain or something else as I have never really experienced this before.

It is weird though I must say that the right started hurting and now seems to be getting better and then the left is starting to hurt. I am assuming that it will also start going away in 2-3 wks.

Problem is as much as I love the hgh and it has reduced my bf by about 3% in 3 wks, $100 / day is quite extortionate.

I am hoping to get back on cycle, perhaps a little water retention with the test but use tren/masteron to gain lean. Hopefully the mix between test/tren will leave me with a little excess water.

Currently on msm, glucosamine and chronditin as well as fish oil.

HGH will cost me $1000 for 10 days at my current dose where as I would need to do if for 120 days.

Test and Tren/Masteron would cost me $1000 for a complete cycle.

What is really weird is why the pain lasted for 3 wks in right shoulder and is now stopping and much better but just as that happens the right starts hurting bad.