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What happened to people???

What happened to people???

  • TV, movies and the media are hella bad influence.

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Parents work instead of guiding their kids.

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Way too much emphasis put on money/material things.

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Liberals have too much influence.

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • Conservatives have too much influence.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Breakdown of family unit has ripped social fabric.

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • We have lost our innocense(sp).

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Job quality and security has gone down.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    12

Test boy

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I am not the guy I used to be. Society is not what it used to be. Families are not what they used to be.

I spend a lot of time deliberating over what happened. I am curious what you people think.
 
i'm young, and didn't really start paying attention to the world until 93 or so. so i have no idea what life was like before that. but i assume people just hid shit better.
 
I think it is a combination of those things you listed, plus people didn't discuss certain things that happened. Things now are more public, whether that is good or bad is open for debate.
 
All these worries, all these problems, all these questions is why I say that "the ganja leaf is vital", Jah heard me, its Ital mon, irie for life.


Many folks place importance on the most irrelevant shit, I mean things that don't have one thing to do with your true purpose, which is proper experience and living of this blessed life the Most High bestowed upon you, they say the ones who sleep are already dead. There are 200,000 million atoms per cubic square of air we breath and fuckers minds are lost 20,000 fathoms under the sea of reality, you're going to only fall into the hell that is uncharted, lonely, lifeless, senseless, a pure blank. Emulate Christ to the best of your ability. peace
 
All of the above.

but I am having second thought's on where to point the blame.

it used to be just the institutin of society that I blamed.....

but am gathering that indviduals have a lot to answer for as well.

"personal responsibility" indeed is a factor that is often ignored by those who critisize things i.e. economies, and political systems structurally.


I think both should be factored together and sythesized into a more thorough answer if there is one.
 
I was waiting for someone to ask just that Testicle Boy.
Just kidding, no , no psilocybin tonight, just mixed in my reply with a few verses from the RZA's song "sunshower", cause were approaching the final hour, the power of equality.
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Testboy -

The human race was always like this. Sure weve had our moments here and there, but without sounding too pessimistic, weve done more bad then good.

History, to present day, is a function of human nature. Humans are inherently greedy and self centered. Greed and arrogance promotes ignorance and enthnocentrism, which feuls violence.....and the cycle begins.

I doubt there ever was a "pure time". In the 50's, America and the Soviets were on the verge of blowing up the world, because they both stubbornly clung to their ideologies. Vietnam, WW2 - Hitler the Japs, WW1- the naughty germans, 16-19th century - colionialism.

Something interesting a sociology professor mentioned in one of my classes. She said that people always want to see the purity of the past, or the purity of a people - the purity of a better time. In reality, there is no pure time, or pure people. That desire to long for innocence, appreciate it from afar, is something humans really enjoy. This is why most healthy people love children. They represent innocence to ourselves, an innoncence we long for, but perhaps have lost.

This is God trying to show us our true desire.
 
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That gave me a warm fuzzy but how do you then explain the trends in:
1) Suicide
2) Divorce
3) Depression
4) Domestic violence
5) Law suits
6) Bancruptcies
7) Abysmal public health
8) Education
9) Credit Worthiness
 
no offense dude but several of those are wrong. if you look at statistics the number of people who have high school, college & graduate degrees is much much higher than it was 40 years ago.

if you look at statistics, you will see that 40 years ago, 20% of men thought domestic violence against women was ok, by the 80's only 10% thought that. now women committing violence against men (long considered a joke, just look at miss piggy & kermit the frog), and homosexual violence is starting to become "wrong" in the public eyes. Hell, 40 years ago domestic violence was barely considered wrong in the poor circles. now most people consider it wrong, men & women.

I'm trying to find the statistics where i saw this info on google.com but i can't find them. Type in the key words and you may find them sometime. i can't find them but i remember reading them.

as far as depression, it may not be only that more people have it as much as more people are willing to get help about it and that it is more public.

Test boy said:
That gave me a warm fuzzy but how do you then explain the trends in:
1) Suicide
2) Divorce
3) Depression
4) Domestic violence
5) Law suits
6) Bancruptcies
7) Abysmal public health
8) Education
9) Credit Worthiness
 
i think its all of the above really,see i dont think many people have morals anymore which is a real bitch,myself personally i taught myself how to be a good person and how to interact with other people by watching my friends familes and other people i respected
 
Havoc said it best . . . Everyone needs to learn to live life to it's fullest and quit sweating the trival shit.

Live and let live.
 
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Test boy said:
That gave me a warm fuzzy but how do you then explain the trends in:
1) Suicide
2) Divorce
3) Depression
4) Domestic violence
5) Law suits
6) Bancruptcies
7) Abysmal public health
8) Education
9) Credit Worthiness

Social scientists and statisticians, over time, have used different methods of assessing the prevelence of the aformentioned social phenomenon, in addition to changing the criteria that must be met for a variable to qualify as such.

When the definition of a social phenomenon changes overtime, in addition to the methods and resources used to detect that phenomenon, the predicted prevelence of the variable is often inconsistent with its "true" prevelence.

Some social phenomenon can be quantified relativily easily compared to other phenomenon, ie suicide, across time (assuming time periods considered used similar resources to monitor levels of suicide). However, seemingly quantifiable social phenomenon, like divorce, as measured by approved divorce certificates by State Courts, is influenced more by social and cultural expectations of monogamy, then by peoples seemingly disinterest with longterm relationships. Back 50 years ago, divorce was unheard of, at least in Canada. If you got a divorce, holy shit!!!, you were dysfunctional. North American culture has become more accepting of divorce. As it stands, divorce is normal. Hence, social norms that prevented people from filing for divorce 30-40 years ago, are less prevelent then they are today = higher divorce rate.

I guess you could say, well then, societies lack of committment to monogamy and the sacred institution of marriage proves societies moral decline. Perhaps in the short term, but not in the long term.

HUmanities historical practise of moral behavour is like a sine wave. Different cultures, at different times, at different locations around the earth have adopted moral behavour, then have left it for "immoral" behavour.

Lets not forgot that 200 years ago, Americans were participating in the slave trade. Its always up and down. Every culture does it. Again, theres really no "perfect past".

I could go on, but its complicated, and I dont wanna think right now :)
 
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