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What happened to DNP GURU's court case?

5-7 years? ROFL

im surprised he didnt fucking get 20 years to LIFE.

he sold DNP to a customer that DIED ON IT.

death...= bad..

so basically 5-7 years is not too bad ..
 
superbigzane said:
5-7 years? ROFL

im surprised he didnt fucking get 20 years to LIFE.

he sold DNP to a customer that DIED ON IT.

death...= bad..

so basically 5-7 years is not too bad ..

good point

although if i sold you a gun and you killed yourself with it....what would be the punishment?
 
the only punishment would be to our eyes, reading... if the doctors were able to revive him and he came back to elite to post yet again.. HAHAHAHHA
 
haha variation, dumb shit.

variation why dont u go back to ur old board and stop flaming people u fat ass.

variation has nothing else to do but to flame people like SwoleCat, bodybyfinaplix and others.

someone ban him.
 
The circumstances of eric perrin's death, while tragic, are not the fault of DNPguru.

the government case was based on mail fraud or illegal use of the federal mail system. (based believe in part on false names and addresses and the fact that it is illegal to ship DNP across state lines- its a hazmat)

There was no evidence that DNP killed eric perrin. at least to the extent that it was a non issue for the governments case. It may have been an exacerbating factor, though his use of 3 times the reccomended dosage, the fact that he did so with his parents knowledge, if not consent (he was living at home), was partly to blame for that. and of couse the fact that he regularly abused club drugs including ecstacy- which is the most likely cause of his demise.

the whole situation is quite sad, DNP was sold to someone with fairly severe mental health problems (OCD at the very least). {you have to be at least a bit unstable to use DNP and Ecstacy at the same time} though there are a lot of other indications from his parents interview and his time on the boards.

The results for both eric and the guru were very unfortunate. Though in all truth the guru did not deserve the sentence he got, even if in some way (which is very debatable) his actions contributed to erics death.

btw- it is pretty clear from the interview that his parents gave that eric mental health was probably a big factor in his demise. which in some ways is even more sad.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
The circumstances of eric perrin's death, while tragic, are not the fault of DNPguru.

the government case was based on mail fraud or illegal use of the federal mail system. (based believe in part on false names and addresses and the fact that it is illegal to ship DNP across state lines- its a hazmat)

There was no evidence that DNP killed eric perrin. at least to the extent that it was a non issue for the governments case. It may have been an exacerbating factor, though his use of 3 times the reccomended dosage, the fact that he did so with his parents knowledge, if not consent (he was living at home), was partly to blame for that. and of couse the fact that he regularly abused club drugs including ecstacy- which is the most likely cause of his demise.

the whole situation is quite sad, DNP was sold to someone with fairly severe mental health problems (OCD at the very least). {you have to be at least a bit unstable to use DNP and Ecstacy at the same time} though there are a lot of other indications from his parents interview and his time on the boards.

The results for both eric and the guru were very unfortunate. Though in all truth the guru did not deserve the sentence he got, even if in some way (which is very debatable) his actions contributed to erics death.

btw- it is pretty clear from the interview that his parents gave that eric mental health was probably a big factor in his demise. which in some ways is even more sad.

i agree 100% with this
 
There was a lengthy debate in the law forum regarding.

End of the day DNP Guru had knowledge of what he was doing for financial gain and was fully aware of risks that were taken. We agree he was an intellegnt man and so will have completed the cost v's benefit equation and decided to implement the sale of DNP within the USA.

Unfortunately the families of both Perrin and Guru are the ones that will pay the most from this as both have lost loved ones (perrin for ever), Guru for a considerable time.

However the phrase you pay to play does apply IMHO.

Disregarding dosages, other rec drugs, consent, mental health the facts remain the same for both. Perrin is dead and Guru conducted the illegal activity of selling DNP for financial gain. BOTH are paying the price for their actions.

This may sound harsh but unfortunately reality IMHO. As Macro staes Guru was covicted due to the sale of DNP NOT perrins death so the details surrounding the death and what was the main thing to contribute to it are immaterial IMHO

Wrognun!
 
Wrongun said:
There was a lengthy debate in the law forum regarding.

he was an intellegnt man and so will have completed the cost v's benefit equation and decided to implement the sale of DNP within the USA.
Wrognun!

Well, that's crap. Noone sits down & weighs the risks vs. rewards before getting involved in a criminal activity that will make them lots of money. The just say, "hey, I should make some money on this". That's the extent of it. After realizing that money can be made, any thoughts to the negative go out the window. In every case, I would guess.
 
superbigzane said:
5-7 years? ROFL

im surprised he didnt fucking get 20 years to LIFE.

he sold DNP to a customer that DIED ON IT.

death...= bad..

so basically 5-7 years is not too bad ..
For the love of god, niavity never ceases to amaze me. If you took too much tylenol and died should the makers of the product spend life in prison?
 
Atomic Punk said:


Well, that's crap. Noone sits down & weighs the risks vs. rewards before getting involved in a criminal activity that will make them lots of money. The just say, "hey, I should make some money on this". That's the extent of it. After realizing that money can be made, any thoughts to the negative go out the window. In every case, I would guess.

I would agree the less intellegent ones yes and jails are full of them. When you are starting an operation that requires annomity (as is the one we debate now) then some thought an planning is required. This was not an oppurtunist crime made in a split second but an operation / business that took time to develop / mature.

Are you really saying that the person now serving time for the supply of DNP did not understand / realise the risk of being arrested? I agree he may wish to have chosen to ignore them but this particular person was credited with intellegence and also read in his time posting at Elitefitness many posts reagrding busts.

If anything is crap it is your thoughts on how criminals operate. What you state above is the reason many serve time i agree but all are aware of risks and the management of them is key.

Wrongun!
 
Zyglamail said:
For the love of god, niavity never ceases to amaze me. If you took too much tylenol and died should the makers of the product spend life in prison?

Hi Zyglamail here we are again LOL

Wrongun!
 
Atomic Punk said:


Well, that's crap. Noone sits down & weighs the risks vs. rewards before getting involved in a criminal activity that will make them lots of money. The just say, "hey, I should make some money on this". That's the extent of it. After realizing that money can be made, any thoughts to the negative go out the window. In every case, I would guess.

If that is also the case then why are there not lots more sources willing to take the risk if Noone sits down & weighs the risks vs. rewards? Is it becuase the rest of the USA do not need the money in that case?

You say people are intellegent and then say they do not make a judgement against risk.........crap i agree

Wrongun!
 
Atomic Punk, some of the smartest people I know are "criminals". They think things through, they are always 3 steps ahead of everyone, but then again there are a lot of dumb criminals.
 
BigAndy69 said:
Atomic Punk, some of the smartest people I know are "criminals". They think things through, they are always 3 steps ahead of everyone, but then again there are a lot of dumb criminals.

Agreed 100% bro

Wrongun!
 
Zyglamail said:
For the love of god, niavity never ceases to amaze me. If you took too much tylenol and died should the makers of the product spend life in prison?

I do agree with you, the only reason they get around it is because they are a big rich company with fda aprooval. (not saying that I think people that produce and or sell something should be sent to prison (as long as what they are selling really is what they say it is.)

Ultimately, I think it's the users responsibility to decide what is reasonable, it's their life after all.


Originally posted by superbigzane

haha variation, dumb shit.

variation why dont u go back to ur old board and stop flaming people u fat ass.

variation has nothing else to do but to flame people like SwoleCat, bodybyfinaplix and others.

someone ban him.


God, you're a real asshole, first of all, I rarely flame (if anything I've said can be considered a flame) 2nd, I'm not fat, but you are, as I've seen your pictures.

3rd, I have a lot of things to do, and I'd like you to show me all these posts where I flamed bodybyfinaplix.. oh that's right.. they don't exist... SwoleCat I've had arguements with, but I believe I had some substance behind each of them.

Now, let's get to you? I should be banned huh?

You've already been banned from this board a few times.

For those of you that don't realize the connection and care, you may wish to do a search for the names JUICEMENOW, JimmyJonesJunior etc..
previous handels he has used on this board, but he gets banned and comes back, you will see the similarities, always for giving out idiotic advice or just lying and being a bad influence, as you've already done again under this nick saying you've taken 300mg fina and 300mg prop each day, something along those lines, which is another lie.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
intelligence

vs.

wisdom

note- the lengths the government went to in his case were VERY EXCEPTIONAL.

Again i agree but result the same unfortunately.

The lengths goverment went to was a PR issue as well due to the high profile and the messgae it sent.

Wrongun!
 
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