i'm on 5 ius on jino a day, and i am using 900 mg/wk of eq and 900 mg/wk of test enan- btw i''m 28 yo 6' 3" 238 w/ 5-6% bf - the gains have been very gradual- i didn't really notice anything very appreciable gain-wise until 2 weeks ago (i've been on 6 weeks) besides the tingly hands, tiredness and aching joints. i started @ 230 w/ about 7-8%, so the gains have been quality (no bloating etc.). biggest difference i noticed was 3 weeks ago when i added 30 mg/day of halotestin in. 17aa orals cause the body to significantly increase igf-1 release (all anabolics do, but not to same extent), and the last 2-3 weeks have been when the most appreciable gains have occurred.