What do you think? Second cycle...

[dosteov]

Beginning my second cycle on Monday.
I'll be running:
25mgs dbol weeks 1-4
500mgs test weeks 1-14
400mgs eq weeks 3-14 - 800mgs eq week 1, 600mgs eq weeks2
25mg proviron ed weeks 9-14
nolvadex 20mg eod wks 1-14
novladex 20mg ed wks 14-17
hcg wks 15-17

What kind of gains do you guys think I can see on such a cycle? You think it's possible to add 15 pounds of muscle and keep it. Also this is my first time taking Dbol. I usually work out everyday about 12 or 1PM. When do you guys think I should take the dbol?
Oh yeah...I'm 5'9 170 about 10% body fat.

Thanks guys...

 

[sweed]

Looks good.. i would run hcg for 7-10 days midcycle with nolva. your going to like dbol, im loving it with my first cycle. i take it in 3 doses.. 7 am, 3pm and 10- 11pm.
havn't looked at proviron too much, so i would get another recommendation. nolva on hand only when sides come about, can get some adex and run that .5- 1 mg eod .
also you might need to evaluate yourself after 3 weeks of pct, you may need more considerin a longer cycle. im sure more will come around to help out

 

[slat1]

That is a shit load of AAS. I wouldn't do that much. On your second cycle you should be able to gain 15lbs and keep it with 500mgs of test alone as long as your diet is in check and your workouts are too.
I went from 200 to 220 on 250mgs of test. My diet and routine were spot on.
I started my last cycle at 237. I am only using 900mgs/wk at the peak of my cycle.
You are using 1475mgs wk1, 1275mgs wk2, 1075mgs wk3. I have never touched that much stuff in my life. You may want to post your diet if you think you need that much to grow. You shouldn't need that much at 170lbs...

 

[dosteov]

Looks good.. i would run hcg for 7-10 days midcycle with nolva. your going to like dbol, im loving it with my first cycle. i take it in 3 doses.. 7 am, 3pm and 10- 11pm.
havn't looked at proviron too much, so i would get another recommendation. nolva on hand only when sides come about, can get some adex and run that .5- 1 mg eod .
also you might need to evaluate yourself after 3 weeks of pct, you may need more considerin a longer cycle. im sure more will come around to help out

You think I have a chance of shutting down midcycle? I would think that the Test would prevent that from happening. My first cycle I ran:
500mgs test wks1-12
400mgs eq wks1-12

No frontloading. I took Femara (I forgot the dosage) every other day and it shut my sex drive down something fierce. So I'm kind of afraid of those aromatase inhibitors. I just used HCG for PCT and my natural test came back fine.

 

[dosteov]

That is a shit load of AAS. I wouldn't do that much. On your second cycle you should be able to gain 15lbs and keep it with 500mgs of test alone as long as your diet is in check and your workouts are too.
I went from 200 to 220 on 250mgs of test. My diet and routine were spot on.
I started my last cycle at 237. I am only using 900mgs/wk at the peak of my cycle.
You are using 1475mgs wk1, 1275mgs wk2, 1075mgs wk3. I have never touched that much stuff in my life. You may want to post your diet if you think you need that much to grow. You shouldn't need that much at 170lbs...

You think that's alot? I'm just frontoading the EQ not the Test. My first cycle was test500mg/eq400mg for 12 weeks. The only difference is the dbol, frontloading the eq and it's 2 weeks longer.

 

[sweed]

You think I have a chance of shutting down midcycle? I would think that the Test would prevent that from happening. My first cycle I ran:
500mgs test wks1-12
400mgs eq wks1-12

No frontloading. I took Femara (I forgot the dosage) every other day and it shut my sex drive down something fierce. So I'm kind of afraid of those aromatase inhibitors. I just used HCG for PCT and my natural test came back fine.

you get shutdown after 2 weeks. think about it.. you are puttin in extra test in your body, way more than it produces, so in turn your body stop producing it because it is gettin it from an outside source.
also femera is knwon to hurt sex drive. arimadex is fine , im using it right now, sex drive going up on my cycle

 

[dosteov]

you get shutdown after 2 weeks. think about it.. you are puttin in extra test in your body, way more than it produces, so in turn your body stop producing it because it is gettin it from an outside source.
also femera is knwon to hurt sex drive. arimadex is fine , im using it right now, sex drive going up on my cycle

So Nolvadex isn't good for bloat? Thanks Sweede for your advice. Have you tried taking all your dbol in one dosage like 90 minutes before you workout? Some people have recommended that and I'm juts kind of curious about it.

 

[dosteov]

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[nutsnack]

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I would have to say thats alot of gear for your second cycle... more is not always better.

 

[gymratforlife]

I would take out the proviron and the dbol out and leave everything else like it is.But thats just me Im not big on orals either so I am a little biased.

 

[dosteov]

I would take out the proviron and the dbol out and leave everything else like it is.But thats just me Im not big on orals either so I am a little biased.

Proviron isn't an aa17 oral. I don't think it is anyway...

 

[shamrock11]

Since you are taking the d-bol there is no need to front load the eq in my opinion. If your going to keep the d-bol don't front load the eq.If you drop the d-bol, which is a good idea, front load the eq. I believe this is too much for a second cycle, but that's just my opinion.

 

[ryan04]

Sounds perfect to me. I just set my boy up on that exact same cycle for his first, minus the d-bols (got seized). I had him frontload the eq the exact same way...he's 3 weeks in and already up 7 lbs (using sust for test by the way). 500 mgs of test is perfect, and 400 mgs of eq is about as low as you can go to get good results. Running eq for 14 wks is good too, takes a while to build up gains with it. Good luck bro!

 

[dosteov]

Sounds perfect to me. I just set my boy up on that exact same cycle for his first, minus the d-bols (got seized). I had him frontload the eq the exact same way...he's 3 weeks in and already up 7 lbs (using sust for test by the way). 500 mgs of test is perfect, and 400 mgs of eq is about as low as you can go to get good results. Running eq for 14 wks is good too, takes a while to build up gains with it. Good luck bro!

Thnanks man!! Finally someone on my side!! I mean I ran 500mgtest/400mgEQ first cycle. I'll I'm doing is adding the dbol and frontloading the EQ. I want to freaking blow up!! What's the deal with me running this 2nd cycle or my 10th cycle... I just don't get it...

 

[WannaBeBig72]

Alot of gear!