What do Ya think fellas?

[JKurz1]

I think I have most everything lined up. Been working on my diet and gear with you boyz. Need some info on good fat/protein only meals as this is new to me, plus I've been totally clean for 3+ years. My test level has always been low (since I was young), so HRT is prob. in my future. Not incred low, but low range. I train 3 on 1 off, 2 on with cardio at least 5 days a week (1st thing in the am, incline walk for 30 minutes at 65%) but more than likely 7 days. I'm 29, 6'2 and 180 with 8% (high estimate). So, I'm talk and lanky looking to get back to where I was in college at 230, but not 15%. So, this cycle I'd like to gain a clean 20lbs+ and keep at LEAST 15. Here's my plan. Huge props for any replies:

CYCLE
WK 1-4 25-30DBOL
WK1-2 500G TEST CYP/ENTH/SUS
WK 1-12 400G EQ
WK 8 -12 WINNY
2 WEEKS AFTER LAST INJECT CLOMID
10MG NOLV THROUGHOUT
.5 ARMIDEX ED
(I DO HAVE 5,000 HCG)

DIET
530
1/2 hr am cardio

PRO/CARB/FAT
630
50G/80G/6

930
50G/0G/25G

NOON
50G/4-5G/25G

300 PRETRAIN
50G/80G/5G

500 OR 6PM TRAIN TIL 630 OR 730

630 OR 730
50G WHEY / 40G DEXT

730 OR 830
50G/ 50G/ 2-3G

930ISH - OR 1030ISH
30-40G CASEIN/2-3G/25G FLAX
BED

 

[chefbone]

Damn bro, it takes you a long time to plan. I've been here since March and you ask the same questions like all of the time. C'mon bro, strap on a pair of Nike's and Just Do It. I mean no disrespect by this, truly, but it's time to dig in bro.l

 

[DieselGunz]

Damn bro, it takes you a long time to plan. I've been here since March and you ask the same questions like all of the time. C'mon bro, strap on a pair of Nike's and Just Do It. I mean no disrespect by this, truly, but it's time to dig in bro.l

bone u on?

Kurz looks solid orb

 

[chefbone]

bone u on?

Kurz looks solid orb

He is solid....For sure bro. It's just repetitive as if he never listens to any advice. He's a good bro......He's from Ohio. We're practicully neighbors!!!

 

[JKurz1]

Just wanted you seal..........I've asted so much shit failing to plan....I swear to all, this is it...........or I'll never post again. BTW - test is wk 1-12

 

[JKurz1]

looks decent?

 

[chefbone]

It looks fantastic bro. Now man up......If you want recipes or if the food starts to get to repetitive and bland, pm me!!!!!

 

[marshabrady]

WK1-2 500G TEST CYP/ENTH/SUS

Hmm. I'm kind of confused- you meant 500mg right?

Also I'd like to know how you are planning to run three different testosterones (actually six there's four in the Sustanon) at one time.

 

[stuck]

CYCLE[/B]
WK 1-4 25-30DBOL
WK1-2 500G TEST CYP/ENTH/SUS
WK 1-12 400G EQ
WK 8 -12 WINNY
2 WEEKS AFTER LAST INJECT CLOMID
10MG NOLV THROUGHOUT
.5 ARMIDEX ED
(I DO HAVE 5,000 HCG)

Solid. I'm probably running this same cycle in the fall minus the dbol. I don't have much luck running dbol up front then winny at the end of cycles, but you're much leaner than I am so you won't have a problem.

 

[maccer]

you know the answer quit asking the same questions

 

[JKurz1]

Ok boys - .....thanks for all your help.....cycle is sealed up and read to go. Only change may be 150mg of prop eod instead of dbol. Nothing major. Now, diet seal and I'm rrrready to roll. Here' my final layout. Just a seal of approval and I'm done with the ?'s.

530
Am cardio light - 30 minutes incline walk

Pro/carb/fat
630
50g/80g/6
3/4 CUP OATS
FEW BLUEBERRIES,STRAWBERRIES
250G OF DRY CURD COTTAGE CHEESE
1 MEDIUM BANANA



930
50g/0g/25g

BURGER PATTY (90% LEAN) WITH A SLICE OF MUNSTER CHEESE OR
CAN OF TUNA, 1 EGG, TB OF MAYO, CELERY/TOMOATOE OR
2 TURKEY SAUSAGES, 1 EGG OR PIECE OF CHEESE OR
3 EGG OMLETE WITH 6 WHITES, CHEESE, ONIONS, ETC.


Noon
50g/4-5g/25g
HUGE SALAD WITH CARIETY OF VEGGIES (SQUASH, TOMATOE, ONIONS, ETC.)
6 OZ LEAN BEEF OR CHICKEN
1 EGG
TB OF FLAX OR OIL VINIGER DRESSING

300 Pretrain
50g/80g/5g
2 TUNA FISH SANDWHICHES OR 6 OZ LEAN BEEF ON
4 PIECES OF 100% EZEKEIEL BREAD (NO HFCS)

500 Or 6pm Train Til 630 Or 730

630 Or 730
50g Whey / 40g Dext

730 Or 830
50g/ 50g/ 2-3g
6 OZ CHICKEN OR TUNA W/ EITHER
1 CUP BROWN RICE OR 7OZ BAKED OR SWEET POTATOE OR BLACK BEANS AND BROWN RICE
SMALL SALAD

930ish - Or 1030ish (OR IF I CRASH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IF I WAKE)
30-40g Casein/2-3g/25g Flax OR 22 ALMONDS/PEANUTS/2TB PEANUT BUTTER

Bed

SEAL

 

[Stainless_Steel]

Looks good, but I would add something for the liver if you are going to run D-bol and winny in the same cycle. Maybe something like Tylers or milk thistle

 

[clublavela]

At least milk thistle at least! Dbol is very hard on the liver

 

[sweed]

you train for 1.5 hours! daaamn.. im at 30 mins tops right now. what your workouts like, and how may sets/ exercises? cycle looks real good man. get it on!

 

[Ulter]

You should do very well with that.

 

[JKurz1]

thanks for all the support bros.....My one switch is 150mg of prop eod instead of the dbol. I just got cold feet with the whole bloat thing/liver problems (which I've had high liver enzymes before) etc. It just makes more sense. I'm done pestering you with questions. You've all been huge supporters and I will help ya out anyway I can. I'm going to eaaassseeee into the diet this week as it will be a total shock to my system to triple my fat intake and double my cals tomorrow. I go my meals planned out and in the fridge. Just hope it's not too much fat, but I can def. afford to put some on. Cycle will begin as soon as I start my new job (Sept.5th)...I want to see if my schedule is going to have to change to cope with the new work place. I will sart a log and keep ya'll posted.


Sweed - 1.5 hours is on the long end. I train 1 bp a week. I take a good 90 sec - 2 min rest and lift heavy/high volume. I am thinkinking of making a switch to this:

CHEST/TRI
BACK/BI
OFF/CORE/CARDIO
LEGS
DELT/TRAP/CALVES
REPEAT

12-15 SETS FOR LARGER BP, 7-9 FOR SMALLER.

CARDIO IS 30 MINUTE INCLINE WALK IN THE AM 7 DAYS A WEEK AND ABOUT A 10 MINUTE COOL DOWN POST TRAINING IN THE PM. BIKE OR JOG A MILE, OR ELLIPTICAL.

 

[gymratforlife]

I hate to be the bad guy here but you wont gain 15lbs of lbm on that training plan especially doing all that cardio.Also imo carbs are to low.In order to gain 15lbs of lbm in 12 weeks your going to up the calories and drop the cardio.Cardio is counter productive when bulking really no need for it.You are doing things backwards,save the cardio for when cutting and you need a deficit.Believe me no one loves cardio more than me I do up to 2 hours per day and burn a total of 1800 calories per day to get the last bit of bf off,but when I bulk I drop it alltogether.

 

[JKurz1]

you arent the bad guy bro.......I'm in an office all day..........sitting........The carbs are adequate for me as they are spaced directly when I need them....pre train and post and in first thing...........calories are 500 above my maintence,and fats are high as is protein.
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30 mins of light walking (65%) to get the blood flowing will hardly lead to no gains....it will hopefully let me eat more and keep my gains clean.......if it's not working, I'll continue to scale it back.

 

[Stacemranger]

you train for 1.5 hours! daaamn.. im at 30 mins tops right now. what your workouts like, and how may sets/ exercises? cycle looks real good man. get it on!

30 minutes? Damn, my fastest is an hour, and that's on shoulder/calves day. Right now my training goes like this....

M: Chest/Tri/Abs
T: Shoulders/Calves
W: Back/Biceps
R: Forearms/Abs
F: Quads/Hams/Calves
S: Off
Su: Off

I don't know how you get by with 30 minutes....

 

[Stacemranger]

Also, I do about 12-15 sets for every BP.

 

[JKurz1]

M: Chest/calves/Abs
T: Shoulders/Traps
W: Back/ABS
R: OFF
F: LEGS
S: ARMS
Su: Off

 

[JKurz1]

Here''s exactly what I ate yesterday. I felt very tired up until my pre-training meal, but I think it's #1 getting used to the food and #2, I always am tired as I sit in an office for 8 hours......it's amazing how much better Ifeel after just 24 hours of sperating carbs/fats.

PRO/CARBS/FATS

30 minutes incline walk at 3.3, 12% grade at 530am
530
Am cardio light - 30 minutes incline walk

Pro/carb/fat
630
50g/80g/6
3/4 CUP OATS
FEW BLUEBERRIES,STRAWBERRIES
250G OF DRY CURD COTTAGE CHEESE
1 MEDIUM BANANA



930
50g/0g/25g

1 cup egg whites/half can tuna
4 celery stick with 2 tb of ANPB and almond butter
SKim milk in coffee

Noon
50g/4-5g/25g
HUGE SALAD WITH CARIETY OF VEGGIES (SQUASH, TOMATOE, ONIONS, ETC.)
6 OZ LEAN BEEF OR CHICKEN
1 piece of MOTZERALLA
3/4 TB OF FLAX OR OIL VINIGER DRESSING
10 PEANUTS

300 Pretrain
50g/80g/5g
TUNA FISH SANDWHICHES OR 6 OZ LEAN BEEF ON
2 PIECES OF 100% EZEKEIEL BREAD (NO HFCS)
SKIM IN COFFEE

500 CHEST/CALVES/ABS THEN 1 MILE LIGHT LIGHT JOG TIL 6:10

630
35Whey / 50 DEX - 1.5 SCOOPS OF WHEY/3/4 SCOOP OF DEXT (ON SCOOPER)

730
50g/ 50g/ 2-3g
6 OZ CHICKEN
1/2 CUP BROWN RICE/1/4 CUP BLACK BEANS
TONS OF VEGGIES/HUGE SALAD
VINEGAR DRESSING


930ish -
30-40g Casein
SKIM MILK
3/4TB FLAX

Bed

 

[akita27]

That looks like a very solid diet. I also feel much better when I seperate carbs and fats. By the way, what is ezikiel bread and where can you buy it?

 

[JKurz1]

That looks like a very solid diet. I also feel much better when I seperate carbs and fats. By the way, what is ezikiel bread and where can you buy it?

???

 

[borg4902]

Switch your skim with carb countdown, if I drank milk it shure would be hood like 12g protein 3g carbs and tastes ausome.

 

[JKurz1]

not worth the extra $$ in my opinion......nothing wrong with skim...slow digestion, good source of calcium....and I drink maybe 2 cups a day bro..........hell, needsize drinks 1 or 2% by the jug...........

 

[borg4902]

dont think you want to get as heavy as needsize does off season wither, you dont compete and dont need the simple carbs in the milk.

 

[needsize]

dont think you want to get as heavy as needsize does off season wither, you dont compete and dont need the simple carbs in the milk.

the milk has absolutely nothing to do with how heavy I get, thats me stopping weight gains part way through cycles, so continuing to add calories way beyond what I should have