what cycle would you run if you had

[beki]

Hey guys,

Just looking for some suggestions for a next cycle. If you had plenty of winny (inj.), primo (inj), prop, deca, tbol, Gh, IGF-1 LR3, IGF-1 Des, GHRP-6, T3, T4, ai&clom&nolva&duta&fina, milk thistle, spiro, roa what cycle would you recommend for quality gains and cutting with the least side effects especially in terms of hair loss and secondarily acne. And let's assume you are:

Age: 26
Height: 6"4
Weight: 242
Bf: ~18%
Cycle Experience: 4
Experience with: primo, prop, gh, IGF1 LR3, T3 (scary stuff), tbol

Winny is a killer for hair (just from research), deca a killer for libido&pct recovery (just from research), and what if you know you'll get scalp itching from primo at 400mg/week (doesn't necessarily mean anything, but still...). So pretty much if you had all these ingredients what cocktail mix would you personally go with and what cocktail mix would you recommend for someone wanting to gain quality mass slowly but surely and at the same time lose bf%?

I am thinking of:

Week -4-..: GH 4IU 5/2
Week -1-12: Fina (makes lethargic as hell at 1mg, no need to mess with duta, anyone experience something similar?)
Week 1-4: Tbol
Week 1-12: Prop 50mg eod
Week 3-12: Primo 100mg e3d
Week 14-18: PCT Clom, IGF1 (maybe)

There is a lot of room to tweak around. Not sure about deca. No need to look bloated and get issues with limp-dick and pct recovery. Also, not sure about incorporating the other ones. For hair: Spiro and revivogen, for skin roa (maybe, unless you guys have other suggestions). Let me know what you think. Constructive criticism is always welcomed.

Thanks.

 

[Texas Monster]

I would go 12 weeks where you have perfect diet and can cut to 12 or 10 % body fat.

Once you do this you have the diet and training down. Then it is time for this kind of cycle.

Week 1-10 Test prop 100 mg eod
Week 1-8 Primo 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Mast 100mg eod

On cycle support
Adex
Forma
N2gaurd


Week 11 PCT
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
PCT+Unleashed
Daa Chews
Phytoserms 347

The big thing to note here is that while on cycle you want to make the most amount of gains possible whether it be fat loss or muscle gain. That being said If you are able to cut 6-8 % naturally then the next 10 weeks will be one hell of a ride when you look in the mirror every day and start to see new striations come out.

Cheers

 

[TheSVPdeal]

I would go 12 weeks where you have perfect diet and can cut to 12 or 10 % body fat.

Once you do this you have the diet and training down. Then it is time for this kind of cycle.

Week 1-10 Test prop 100 mg eod
Week 1-8 Primo 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Mast 100mg eod

On cycle support
Adex
Forma
N2gaurd


Week 11 PCT
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
PCT+Unleashed
Daa Chews
Phytoserms 347

The big thing to note here is that while on cycle you want to make the most amount of gains possible whether it be fat loss or muscle gain. That being said If you are able to cut 6-8 % naturally then the next 10 weeks will be one hell of a ride when you look in the mirror every day and start to see new striations come out.

Cheers

Unless it's primo ace, less than 12 weeks won't make one notice much.

 

[timetogethuge1940]

with that, i would simply do that ol Arnold cycle, but substitute tbol for dbol. ive also wanted to do that but i refuse to pay such a high price for primobolon.

id go 16 weeks and add winnie on the back end.

1-16 primo @ 600 mgs/week
1-5 tbol @ 40 mgs/day
12-16 winnie @ 50 mgs/day

ive never ran primo, but from what i have seen and heard it does not have a lot of side effects. i dont know if it will effect your libido or not.. but if it does add a lower to moderate dose of test per week. tbol wont add any water on you, and gains are easier in my opinion to keep than dbols. and winnie at the back end of a cycle always works well to give you extra cuts, although you may not be able to see them at your bf % but it will still help you to lean out.

i think gh is a big waste of time, and will eventually be proven dangerous. and i dont want to offend anybody when i say this.. but i really think the only people that should even consider it are the people that have reached there absolute max in size. ifbb pro style.

now for pct.. i would definitely use clomid, that should be a no brainer. nolva can be optional.. but since i see that u have igf-1 listed. you should really consider running clomid, a low dose of nolva, and igf-1 for pct. igf-1 and nolva are awesome together !

 

[Soulthief]

Personally, I would never run fina (tren) 12 weeks. I wouldn't even go over 6.

 

[Texas Monster]

Unless it's primo ace, less than 12 weeks won't make one notice much.

oops forgot to put that in there I was assuming since the other two were prop he would get the right idea......and I am not 100% on you have to run primo longer than 12 weeks. Lee priest only runs it for 8.

 

[beki]

@texas monster, thanks! I was going to stop with the primo 2 weeks prior to ending the prop cycle.

@soulthief, Won't be touching tren, don't want to say it destroyed my hairline, but certainly shifted the temples further back, and everyone in my family has pierce brosnan like hair ;D.

@timetogethuge libido was no issue on primo, price is no issue, Turkish pharmacies sell them for 3 dollars a pop, you guys are being screwed on everything online - EVERYTHING! If you only knew! . I also think when done correctly HGH has less sides than steroids. As for IGF1, I have come across multiple threads online where people report hair-loss while on it. I used it and got an itchy scalp as well and noticed more hair come out. Again I have never experienced itching except with primo, igf1 and tren.


I guess I will first trim down to 14% bf then decide on what cycle to run. Not sure what to do with all the rest however. As for the hair, those that care, what's your regimen for hairloss prevention? spiro&nizoral? Not a fan of finasteride!

Thanks again for your input guys.

 

[beki]

Personally, I would never run fina (tren) 12 weeks. I wouldn't even go over 6.

Oh I see, I meant finasteride, not finaplex . Had my fair share with it. won't be touching it, as great as it is.

 

[Soulthief]

Oh I see, I meant finasteride, not finaplex . Had my fair share with it. won't be touching it, as great as it is.

Oooh, good. I got scared about you having a rough recovery. Good to hear. Sounds like a sweet cycle you have going. Good luck and enjoy!