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I've read that a first cycle should be test only. But what I don't get is, everyone recommends cyp, eth, and somex's prop... But very few recommend sust.
Why or why not Sust?
Why or why not Sust?
What are your thoughts on Sust for a newbie?
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Well i used Sust (Omnadren) for my first cycle and had very, VERY good gains
I shot it E3D with 30mgs of D-bol for 4 weeks, then added some Primo on week 7-10 at 200mgs a week.
I would definitely recommend it. I mean use Ethanate as it will keep your blood levels a bit more stable, but i loved sust.
Still do.
I shot it E3D with 30mgs of D-bol for 4 weeks, then added some Primo on week 7-10 at 200mgs a week.
I would definitely recommend it. I mean use Ethanate as it will keep your blood levels a bit more stable, but i loved sust.
Still do.
O.K. I love sust , always will, and I used it for my first and every cycle. The advantage the experts and veterans are tying to pass along is this:
Sust is a mixture of time released esthers. As a begginner, you want to start slowly and with low doses of each individual esther to see how YOUR body will react. If you do , youll have a long standing experience to help set up your next cycle.
Some will say that test is test , and it doesnt matter because mg per mg all test is equal.
Since I started ass backwards , now the base for my every cycle is sust 250 by karachi . I just add different amounts of esthers to that base one at a time to see how i react. I also see no need as of yet for ME to go above a total of 500 to 600mg per week total. Hope this helps out , youlikeadajuice. Good luck , bro.
Sust is a mixture of time released esthers. As a begginner, you want to start slowly and with low doses of each individual esther to see how YOUR body will react. If you do , youll have a long standing experience to help set up your next cycle.
Some will say that test is test , and it doesnt matter because mg per mg all test is equal.
Since I started ass backwards , now the base for my every cycle is sust 250 by karachi . I just add different amounts of esthers to that base one at a time to see how i react. I also see no need as of yet for ME to go above a total of 500 to 600mg per week total. Hope this helps out , youlikeadajuice. Good luck , bro.
GoldenDelicious
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lol understanding, and lack of availability of human grade stuff, i would imagine.
sustanon has a very good plasma profile, and is available in human grade. that theory above about which esters do what is a little silly. its just test seeping out of a depot. the ester itself is irrelevent; blood test is what is important, and sust delivers very well.
anyway ill shut up so other people will offer opinions
sustanon has a very good plasma profile, and is available in human grade. that theory above about which esters do what is a little silly. its just test seeping out of a depot. the ester itself is irrelevent; blood test is what is important, and sust delivers very well.
anyway ill shut up so other people will offer opinions
rogerthedog
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Like del piero's experience, the pain of sust isn't good. Could put a newbie off!
no1special
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sustanon is always great, especially for someone new,
you will really enjoy it. And you will surely make good gains.
Peace
you will really enjoy it. And you will surely make good gains.
Peace
glennds
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i will be doing sus only for third cycle, 250mg/once a week to start. i am a little worried about the pain thing i keep hearing about but if it is that terrible i don't have to do it again. it is kind of hard to fathom why it is so painful, or more than other injections i have had over my life for normal medical needs. i guess i will find out on my own.
GoldenDelicious
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strange....it was never an issue in the pharmacy....all you big tough bodybuilders must be pussies 
(or you have bad technique....or its the working out that makes it painful...)
(or you have bad technique....or its the working out that makes it painful...)
glennds
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GoldenDelicious said:strange....it was never an issue in the pharmacy....all you big tough bodybuilders must be pussies
GD i got a question for you, since you are our smart and resident pharmacist. the reason some AAS injections, like sus, are painful is due to the benzyl alcohol content.
there must be a reason they are made this way, maybe to prevent infections, but why don't the manufacturers make it so injections are NOT so painful? i am not talking about for black market for users but for people who use it for medical reasons. WHY should a medication be so painful to take?
italiano2002
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my first cycle was sust 250mg/week, gained 25lbs. i love that shit. my first inject hurt for a few days, ever since i dont feel anything with it. but after my experience with supra 425 nothing comes close to pain
evander1972
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Im on Karachi sust just now. I used to heat the oil to thin it out a bit then shoot. This helped a bit with the pain but sometimes it was still there. When I say pain I mean a little discomfort. Anyway I was short on time one day so I loaded my dart cold. When I injected myself I sqezed the sust in realy slowly, I took about 35 secs to inject 1.5 mls cold. The next day no pain at all. Ive tryed it the old way injecting hot and fast and I get a little pain, And when I try it the new way no pain at all.
no1special
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one more thing,
if your gym has a dry sauna, that is a great place to warm the oil up in your body and to get in moving along to everything else.
maybe I'm reading in too much, but it really seems to help allot for me.
Peace
if your gym has a dry sauna, that is a great place to warm the oil up in your body and to get in moving along to everything else.
maybe I'm reading in too much, but it really seems to help allot for me.
Peace
waterboy44
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Im about to run my first cycle involving sust an never heard anything about pain. Is it anything comparable to test-400? I ran that for my first cycle and I would have rather been kickedd in the ass by a horse than take that shit for a cycle again.
jimbob bignob
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grow a set & man up aint sore at all if it is just take the oral tablets
MattJS
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I chose not to use sust for my first cycle because of all the different ester times and planning PCT based on clearance times etc, I thought it was best to keep blood levels as stable as possible and to avoid any unnecessary complication, I do know some guys who report getting better gains from sust, could be its less likely to be underdosed...
