How old are you? The right age to start "juicing" is when you have reached your natural peak. I trained for about 6 years before I touched it. Im 20 years old now, and my first cycle was about 9 months ago. I took a very mild cycle of only 250mg of sust per week for 8 weeks and gained and kept 22lbs of muscle, and losing 1% bf. Im now 215 with low bf. Next one starts in 3 months, wewhoo!