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velvett

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It seems that the bosses are *disappointed* that I am not available on my vacation days to work.


I wrote them a note - too strong?
I need your honest opinion, keep it or give it.

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In four years I have always covered the retail store when necessary, stayed late when necessary, taken home work when necessary and gone the extra mile as it were – when necessary. On Sunday when Eugenia called and mentioned working Saturday and the possibility of working on either Friday or Monday it was an assumption that I would be available. Which would be an appropriate assumption because when in four years have an ever not been available?

I did not request this particular week off, Christmas – thru New Year’s it was assigned to me as all my vacation dates are assigned to me. Had this been an inconvenient week to take off I should have been given another week off. Even my vacation days are not selected by myself to be an ultimately highly flexible employee.

I am truly offended that you could possibly be disappointed in my taking my vacation and doing something else other than nothing.
 
Yeah, you gotta lay down the smack with employers. They usually don't recognize how valuable you are until you're gone.

Oh btw, are you persian?
 
Nice...works for me.

Seems like the facts to me.
Anything could be taken the wrong way....anything.
Its one of them no win things.
 
I'd give it to them.

I worked retail for over 3 years, and I learned after a while to not answer my phone when work called on my days off. If I answered, they'd ask me to work, and be irritated if I said no.
 
Velvett.

You know my opinion, I think they are taking advantage of your kind nature. I think the note is very mild. For them to expect you to drop everything, everytime they ask, is expecting too much.
They expect you to behave in a professional manner, yet they are not giving you the same respect.

Maybe you need to look into starting that business a little earlier than you planned. You don't deserve to be treated like that.:)
 
There's a little saying in manufacturing fields: "What ever you do to go above and beyond only becomes a bench mark for the minimum amount they expect out of you from that point on. No matter how ridiculous the task may be."

It's never about what you have done for them since the beginning. It's about what you are going to do to make life convenient for them at your expense. So with that . . .

LAY THE FUCKING, YES F-U-C-K-I-N-G !!! SMACK DOWN ON THEIR PISSY LITTLE ASSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
 
Vel,

Tell the "TAKE VELVETT FOR GRANTED " bastards you have reservations for an expesnive spa visit. If they wish, they can pay the $500.00 you shelled out for the spa reservation!
 
K-


When it comes to retail they do not give a fuck about anyone but themselves. They only care about the bottom line (getting the job done).

They are only concerned with getting theirs. You have to be concerned with getting yours.

They are grown adults, they can handle the situation while you take your days off. Don't let them fuck you.



Jim
 
Velvett, when they get back from their vacation, which I'm sure they're not going to cut short. You need to sit them down and come up with some guidelines for your job and what they expect from you. They are expecting you to be at their becking call, anytime they need something, and that's not right. You are supposed to have a life away from there, they do.

That steams me that they are trying to make you feel guilty about taking your vacation.:mad:
 
You're right big, she does need to sit down with them and attempt to set some guidelines for her position. If they truly appreciate her in the slightest then this can be accomplished. However I would also step up the frequency in exploring viable options in her line of work.
 
Thanks for all the replies - I really needed a soundboard. :)


Fresh - Yes, in part.

The Project - The funny thing is - I'm not even in the retail department, I just cover because we can never keep a sales person more than 6 months.



It was good to sleep on it, yet my feelings remain the same - I mean they have been the same for four years, I've just choosen to be verbal now.

I did leave the note, with a minor addition and a few grammar changes and placed one copy to each boss separately. I have a hunch the female boss would read it and throw it away, so I wedged a copy in the male bosses calender book as well.

I doubt I will hear much about this, a few groans about it months down the road (just like the parental guilt trip for something you did when you were - 10) and because then they would have to replace me and they know they can't.
 
When on vacation, turn the answering maching off and look at your caller ID before picking up.

Letter looks very well written to me. However, it could also knock you down the ladder a bit if your bosses are pricks or overly sensitive to criticism. It's a gamble unless you know them pretty well.
 
The Dude said:
Letter looks very well written to me. However, it could also knock you down the ladder a bit if your bosses are pricks or overly sensitive to criticism. It's a gamble unless you know them pretty well.


Thanks!

And while that is quite true.

In this case I am the entire ladder.
I guess I'll be taking out the trash for a while, eh?
 
hey velvett,
why did you write them a note? Sometime people can take things the wrong way with a note rather than face to face. I would have had it out with them in person, then they can actaully see your dissapointment.
 
yea

The Nature Boy said:
hey velvett,
why did you write them a note? Sometime people can take things the wrong way with a note rather than face to face. I would have had it out with them in person, then they can actaully see your dissapointment.
i've sone that. it works
 
The Nature Boy said:
hey velvett,
why did you write them a note? Sometime people can take things the wrong way with a note rather than face to face. I would have had it out with them in person, then they can actaully see your dissapointment.


I tried that last year and the female boss picked up the phone and acted as is of she had *important calls to make* and when I waited until she had to face me she kept turning her back to me as if to say she was too busy to talk to me. That was the day in which I told her that she it the sole reason why she does not get referrals and that she is the sole reason that projects she leads fall apart - because she does not know how to listen to her clients. Which led her into the *I'm walking away, I can't hear you because I'm gonna scream louder than you can* - you could say she has a few *cough* issues.

If anyone, ANYONE questions her on something - they are screaming at her, she is always a victim and it is impossible to have a conversation with her if it's something she does not want to face.

The male boss - is her partner socially as well so he doesn't want to fight with her pertaining to someone else because he has to go home with her every night.




......... and before anyone asks - I stay soley out of sick demented comfort and the money.
 
Thats not strong enough. I dont see anything which could possibly offend your employer. He sounds like some dumbass. Anyway, tell him to fuck off. Good karma for ya.....
 
Carry a gun to work one day. They'll never question anything you do or don't do again. It worked for me! (they'll be too scared of you to fire you)
 
velvett said:



I tried that last year and the female boss picked up the phone and acted as is of she had *important calls to make* and when I waited until she had to face me she kept turning her back to me as if to say she was too busy to talk to me. That was the day in which I told her that she it the sole reason why she does not get referrals and that she is the sole reason that projects she leads fall apart - because she does not know how to listen to her clients. Which led her into the *I'm walking away, I can't hear you because I'm gonna scream louder than you can* - you could say she has a few *cough* issues.

If anyone, ANYONE questions her on something - they are screaming at her, she is always a victim and it is impossible to have a conversation with her if it's something she does not want to face.

The male boss - is her partner socially as well so he doesn't want to fight with her pertaining to someone else because he has to go home with her every night.




......... and before anyone asks - I stay soley out of sick demented comfort and the money.

Your female boss is a huge bitch. Check your PM, I have a question to ask you.
 
I'm sorry Velvett I wish I could give you and unbiased opinion but my current view on authority and such inhibits me from doing that.....it seems like a well thought out letter and I don't think it is too strong.....the disappointed part could urk them a bit, but i doubt it will induce any disciplinary actions




:teleport:
 
Velvett we have a saying here in the army.

"Flog a willing horse".

I think your being very very easy going in that letter to your employer.
Don't sweat it hon..

Bouncer
 
i personally wouldn't send a letter at all... you just say no, you cant' help out, period... if you are on vacation they shouldn't need more of an explaination... if they are looking for it then say, i'm sorry, i have a previous engagement...

sending a letter like this is almost like looking for their approval for what you've done by reasoning it out to them... they'll just have their little hissy fit about the whole thing and feel that ultimately you're right and they're just being the 'better people' by letting you have your days to yourself (or they'll guilt you into working which is probably what they've done in the past)...

if you're job is at all in jeporday or they are still taking tantrums when you return to work (after the full extent of your vacation) then maybe think about expressing your views.. but until then, i personally wouldn't even acknowledge their attitudes... chances are it'll all blow over in a few days...

if you had said that you'd be available while you were away this is a completely different story...
 
Phemomena said:
i personally wouldn't send a letter at all... you just say no, you cant' help out, period... if you are on vacation they shouldn't need more of an explaination... if they are looking for it then say, i'm sorry, i have a previous engagement...

That is what I did.
The note was in response to the near ten minute message my boss left on my home phone (I assume) after she heard my message that I was not available to work.


I'm not worried about it, but I'm not going to let myself be taken advantage anymore.
:angel:
 
Very well put, Velvett. Straight and to the point, just like I would say. Hope that you are not going into work! :)
 
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