Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hi for starters i hope I'm In the right section.im 26 and was having a hard time losing weight even after diet and excersie. Brother recommended cypionate 300mg to cut weight.so i did the research and decided to go through with it.was told since it was my first cycle i didn't have to worry about estrogen blockers or anything like that and also to take a day burner like hydroxycut which i am as well as multi vitamin b12 and b12 complex for maximum fat loss.i drink protein twice a day and eat extremely healthy lean meats vegetables fruits nuts all that good stuff. Also im an former marine so i train pro hard at no less then 6 miles a day hi intensity cardio for about an hour hour and a half a day.i noticed that iv gained 8 pds and have no energy or desire to workout anymore.im not cutting at all and was wondering why this is i am stronger but nothing static.what am i doing wrong?any help is greatly appreciated. (Also sorry again if this is in the wrong spot)
weight gain while cutting on cypionate??
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You're doing a lot wrong. Whoever said you don't need to control estrogen on your first cycle is a clueless moron and there's no science or logic behind that. Your E is through the roof because test aromatizes and it's making you feel like ass and may give you a nice set of tits. Get some aromasin and dose it at 12.5mg eod and you'll start feeling better. This will also drop the water retention the elevated estrogen is causing. If you're eating to cut, you'll cut bodyfat but you still may see increases on the scale because it's your first cycle and youre adding quite a bit of muscle mass. Go by the mirror because the scale will throw you off
assuming your diet and exercise was actually ample. why would you expect to lose weight while using a drug that promotes muscle growth? Weight on the scale doesnt properly express compositional changes.
The sides you are experiencing is likely due to high estrogen because your not using an AI.
Lastly if you cant lose some fat with clean diet and exercise then you have a sluggish thyroid and need iodine (lugols solution, not kelp crap) and selenium. B vits are great BUT most supps have poor quality ingredients. Cyanocobalamin (b12) is junk so is folic acid(b9). You need methylcobalamin (b12) and methylfolate(b9).
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First, you are most likely holding a bit of water because you are not using an AI. I would start aromasin at 12.5mg everyday, then switch to every other day after a couple weeks.
Second, your elevated test levels have activated more nitrogen retention in your muscles. This will lead to fuller muscles, which will intern make you way more. I know when I start a cycle, I jump up 10-15 pounds in the first couple weeks just because of this.
Third, you most likely feel sluggish because your Estrogen is high.. which can be causing a lot of issues like high blood pressure. Get that taken care of with the AI like stated above and you should be feeling better.
Fourth, when on cycle.. you should use the mirror to access progress more than the scale. Steroids can be a mind fuck sometimes.
Second, your elevated test levels have activated more nitrogen retention in your muscles. This will lead to fuller muscles, which will intern make you way more. I know when I start a cycle, I jump up 10-15 pounds in the first couple weeks just because of this.
Third, you most likely feel sluggish because your Estrogen is high.. which can be causing a lot of issues like high blood pressure. Get that taken care of with the AI like stated above and you should be feeling better.
Fourth, when on cycle.. you should use the mirror to access progress more than the scale. Steroids can be a mind fuck sometimes.
various forum sponsors carry AI's.
not really. You will want anastozole (adex), letrozol or aromasin. As I already mentioned the forum sponsers carry this stuff. Look at the banners at the top of the site or in the main forum listing.
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