weight belts-

[MsBeverlyHills]

do you guys use them on heavy squats??? I have strong abs, but tend to lean forward a little (like good mornings, but not as arched) on the last reps of my last set (5x5). Would a weight belt help???

thanks all

 

[Mike_Rojas]

I haven't used a weight belt in 6 months

 

[PolishHammer1977]

I do not currently use one.

A weight belt left a bit loose ca definitely help your core stability. Push your belly outward and the belt will become tight. You willnow have more core stability.

If you are leaning forward a little, could it be possible that the bar placement is a little high on your back/traps?

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

If you are leaning forward a little, could it be possible that the bar placement is a little high on your back/traps?

hadnt thought of that-- thanks

 

[PolishHammer1977]

You have given out too much Karma today, try again later.


I dislike this message!!!!

Anytime MSBH

 

[bignate73]

means you arent sitting back enough, if you are tipping forward. could be your erectors or hammies need work. when you tip forward do you find yourself pushing through your toes to come back? its a form issue, not a belt issue, if thats the case. how is your hip flexibility? many people tend to bend at the waist if they cant get their knees out wide enough. it really depends on your form i guess. describe your squat form.

 

[d3track]

the weight belt may help some, the bar placement will probably help more
i have the same problem if i don't hit my grove
sometimes i just have to rack the weight and compose myself, then go at it again, really work on seting your back in place before you start the movement

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

nate-- I just changed up my squat form to using plates under my heels so I had to push thru w/my heels not toes....I dont really start tipping forward until the end when Im really tired-- so I figured using the belt (just on the last set).

make sense???

 

[bignate73]

there is your problem. you cant sit back. why plates under your heels? calf inflexibility? stretch those soleus muscles.

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

plates-- you can go deeper on squats/ more centered/ fuller range of motion... so Im using more hamstring/ less quads.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

msbh

can you send me a video?

 

[Exodus]

plates-- you can go deeper on squats/ more centered/ fuller range of motion... so Im using more hamstring/ less quads.

true, but you have to sacrifice how much weight you can be using plus its bad on your knees....

take the plates out if you want a big squat........ why do you think powerlifters wear flat shoes......... to stay flat so they dont tip forward, if you wear heeled shoes it forces you forward, same thing with plates under the heals....

X

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

msbh

can you send me a video?

cant videotape at Golds- it would not be cool unless your a pro or doing an ad or something for a magazine.

so, guess Ill bag the plates for now...

 

[PolishHammer1977]

cant videotape at Golds- it would not be cool unless your a pro or doing an ad or something for a magazine.

so, guess Ill bag the plates for now...

Fair enough.......................I think you could say that you ARE doing an ad for a magazine though.

Just a thought.

 

[bignate73]

plates-- you can go deeper on squats/ more centered/ fuller range of motion... so Im using more hamstring/ less quads.

you get a few degrees deeper.
more centered? but less stable footing.
fuller range of motion can easily be countered with some calf stretching.
less quad: actually elevating the heel places more stress on the knees/ ie quads are firing more (stressing the patellar ligament)

most people will elevate their heels to focus more on quads.

plates can be good to teach you to sit back, if you end up with your toes in the air, you know you are doing it right. as a teaching tool, but not as a means of doing the exercise. especially with 5x5, you need solid footing.

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

thanks nate... damn Long Beach is where??? someplace south of here right???

just teasing...good advice- send me your bill

 

[bignate73]

thanks nate... damn Long Beach is where??? someplace south of here right???

just teasing...good advice- send me your bill

come down sometime if you want. nonerz and i could work out with you and we can trade ideas. she looooves to squat and deadlift, and OLY lift too. geez. or we can head up sometime. just no west hollywood clubs, its near that down here. hehehe.

i really like to pick apart squats, as you can tell. its like troubleshooting those little xmas tree lights to find the one thats not working hehehe.

 

[b fold the truth]

You could always video tape yourself doing squats with a broom stick at your home. That is how I practice on off days...

I have a thrower who is leaning fwd on her last rep(s) on squats. I showed her this week that there comes a point where her butt does NOT go deeper but she feels like she needs to go down farther so she is bending over more...which puts her in a bad position out of the hole. Remember..you always sit back with the hips only...not the knees.

You thought about doing any heavy gm's with your squat stance?

B True

 

[vinylgroover I]

Maybe go a tad wider in your stance........is your stance fairly close?.......it will tend to make you more unbalanced if your stance is close and you have poor balance/flexibility.

 

[JJFigure]

Maybe go a tad wider in your stance........is your stance fairly close?.......it will tend to make you more unbalanced if your stance is close and you have poor balance/flexibility.

That's what I was thinking. When I use a close stance for rear squats, I end up leaning - that long leg thing. My PLer had me widen my stance, and I don't lean anymore - not even at 1RM levels of loads.