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Weigh In Shredded Vs. Mass

floridalife

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Want to know who thinks it is feasible to gain mass and bulk up, yet at the same time manage to shred up.

2 totally different approaches are needed, yet some seem able to manage it
 
its all about how you eat and train bro. my first cycle was low dose test and i came out fairly cut, but i am an ecto so that plays into it. i also am looking to put on lean mass for my next cycle and im gonna run it something like this

1-12 test e
1-12 EQ
8-14 anavar

im gonna low dose my test to reduce bloat but still get the bulk while EQ throughout and var at end to really shred up. i've got big expectations for this one should do all that.
 
Like digit posted it's all about how you eat and train. Of course genetics play a HUGE role as well. Flex Wheeler would diet for the Olympia and drink cokes, eat pizza etc! Dexter can do this too.

I was an extreme ecto when I started. I was 144.5lbs exactly (I'll never forget weighing myself the first day I started lifting, lol). At a height of a little over 6'4 that's super thin. I can eat anything I want and still not get fat. I am now 264lbs or so (244 in my avi right before I started my last 500mg test cycle and Amp stack.) and even though I drink shakes with 7 tablespoons of olive oil before bed, I still wake up starving 4 hours later and need to eat some eggs or a can of tuna with some natural pb on the side. But if my friend Bill did this, he would have a double chin within 2 weeks.

So, genetics, diet and training all play a role. But as a general rule of thumb it's always easier to go on all out bulks to gain massive amounts of muscle than it is to bulk and get cut at the same time.

Post up some stats, age, cycle history, training, nutrition habits, genetic structure, etc and I think we will all be able to help you better. It's one thing for us to give you our personal experiences but if you want more personal, clear cut answer, we will need more info.
 
Yeah but my point is, body type aside

they are 2 totally different methods

you can't gain REAL mass when calorie counting, and doing cardio twice a day

and u sure aren't going to get ripped when eating to grow, taking in 5000-6000 calories 250-300g of protein etc etc..

I just don't think it feasible for the avergae guy it's one or the other, and i guess that's why the pros mass up during off, train to maintain it while cutting...

for anything other than an ecto it's not very easy
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
I've never been able to bulk and cut at the same time. But then I'm not genetically gifted :(



....BINGO , you hit it right on the head. its skill level in the gym, and genetics that make this happen.
 
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