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Water Retintion

RASERX2

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running test and deca and retaining lots of water what can i take to fight the water retention:alien:
 
Hi RASER

OK, to fight water retention. You can take proviron 25mg/day
should do the job. I'm on a dbol cycle and also bloated up so I take proV and is working.

Here's what proV does:

Proviron is also an estrogen antagonist which prevents the aromatization of steroids. Unlike the antiestrogen Nolvadex which only blocks the estrogen receptors (see Nolvadex) Proviron already prevents the aromatizing of steroids. Therefore gynecomastia and increased water retention are successfully blocked. Since Proviron strongly suppresses the forming of estrogens no rebound effect occurs after discontinuation of use of the compound.

There you have it. Hope this helps

peace :D
 
Nolvadex, Liquidex, drink lots of water itself. Thing is though, you will still probably have some bloat associated with the raised Progesterone levels from the Deca. That's why I hate it. I get a bigger bloated roid gut on that at low doses, than I would with high-dose Tests w/o any anti-e's.
 
liquidex kills proviron for preventing and getting rid of water retention
 
dzuljas said:
nolva doesnt really block water its more for gyno, get liquidex or femera

What do you think causes the water-retention bro? Nolva is an anti-e, and "E" is what causes the EXCESS H2O retention.
 
Forget the proviron its not strong enough IMO. Armidex will help most with water retention but to those of us more prone to reteain allot of water the use of Aromasin (blocks up to 98% of estrogen for up to 5 days) or Femera is a better choice.
 
Atomic Punk said:


What do you think causes the water-retention bro? Nolva is an anti-e, and "E" is what causes the EXCESS H2O retention.

actually bro, nolvaldex isnt very effective at keepong water retention down. if u have used it or knew the drug good u would know this
 
DaddyX said:


actually bro, nolvaldex isnt very effective at keepong water retention down. if u have used it or knew the drug good u would know this

Moron. I wouldn't offer an opinion if I'd never tried the shit. Not everyone here is just spouting ape shit you know. This is the second time someone has said some shit like that to me here, and I've only been here for 2 damn days. I do know of what I speak, and post count has nothing to do with my knowledge. I hope that you aren't one of those guys who stops obtaining info after a certain amount of posts. I suppose in your world, once you've hit 500 of them you officially know it all, and can condesend to others with lesser posts as if they know fuckall, right?! Tell you what, ANYONE HERE WHO CAN POST SOME PICTURES FOR ME---PLEASE PM ME. You do the same. We'll see who knows more, and who has tried what. Smartass mother fucker! Nolvadex ABSOLUTELY WILL cut down on water retention. I'm on the shit now, with Test Cyp at a low dose.
 
Atomic Punk said:


Moron. I wouldn't offer an opinion if I'd never tried the shit. Not everyone here is just spouting ape shit you know. This is the second time someone has said some shit like that to me here, and I've only been here for 2 damn days. I do know of what I speak, and post count has nothing to do with my knowledge. I hope that you aren't one of those guys who stops obtaining info after a certain amount of posts. I suppose in your world, once you've hit 500 of them you officially know it all, and can condesend to others with lesser posts as if they know fuckall, right?! Tell you what, ANYONE HERE WHO CAN POST SOME PICTURES FOR ME---PLEASE PM ME. You do the same. We'll see who knows more, and who has tried what. Smartass mother fucker! Nolvadex ABSOLUTELY WILL cut down on water retention. I'm on the shit now, with Test Cyp at a low dose.

easy there son, i was pointing out the fact that nolvs isnt a very good choice for cutting down water retention. i am sorry if i bruised you in anyway there. i didnt even look at your post count. what the hell do pics have to do with anything. your stupider then i thought. keep reading here and you can learn alot. there are alot of knowledgable bro's here who can help you . goodluck
 
Atomic Punk said:


Moron. I wouldn't offer an opinion if I'd never tried the shit. Not everyone here is just spouting ape shit you know. This is the second time someone has said some shit like that to me here, and I've only been here for 2 damn days. I do know of what I speak, and post count has nothing to do with my knowledge. I hope that you aren't one of those guys who stops obtaining info after a certain amount of posts. I suppose in your world, once you've hit 500 of them you officially know it all, and can condesend to others with lesser posts as if they know fuckall, right?! Tell you what, ANYONE HERE WHO CAN POST SOME PICTURES FOR ME---PLEASE PM ME. You do the same. We'll see who knows more, and who has tried what. Smartass mother fucker! Nolvadex ABSOLUTELY WILL cut down on water retention. I'm on the shit now, with Test Cyp at a low dose.

Damn. Way to comeand start fights. By the way nolva is a poor choice to stop water retention. Liquidex or femera would be A LOT better.
 
02gixxersix said:


Damn. Way to comeand start fights. By the way nolva is a poor choice to stop water retention. Liquidex or femera would be A LOT better.

Not in my case. Long term Nolva is a WAY better choice. Period. PM DrJMW and ask him if you want another opinion. I'd bet he would agree.

As far as dingleshits post above there...whatever. You keep talking smack and hiding behind that PC there brother. If you want to sit there and call me stupid and son, and talk down, then why don't you post some pics, so we can all know that you have an actual reason for your arrogance. I'll post up. I GUARANTEE I destroy your ass.
 
Atomic Punk said:


Not in my case. Long term Nolva is a WAY better choice. Period. PM DrJMW and ask him if you want another opinion. I'd bet he would agree.

As far as dingleshits post above there...whatever. You keep talking smack and hiding behind that PC there brother. If you want to sit there and call me stupid and son, and talk down, then why don't you post some pics, so we can all know that you have an actual reason for your arrogance. I'll post up. I GUARANTEE I destroy your ass.

you were the one who started with all the shit talking. pics have nothing to do with it. i have a great body that doesnt represent my knowledge anyways and and lastly why dont you grow up. i stated my opinion on nolvaldex fighting water retention, i dont like it, i think ldex is a btter choice. im not gonna put you down and act 3 years old so keep it up and enjoy yourself. tata
 
DaddyX said:


you were the one who started with all the shit talking. pics have nothing to do with it. i have a great body that doesnt represent my knowledge anyways and and lastly why dont you grow up. i stated my opinion on nolvaldex fighting water retention, i dont like it, i think ldex is a btter choice. im not gonna put you down and act 3 years old so keep it up and enjoy yourself. tata

"Tata"? Gay much?
 
creep said:
who said roid rage wasn't real???

No "rage" here creep. I didn't appreciate the dudes initial tone is all. I know damn well he saw my post count, and assumed that I didn't have a clue what I was talking about because of it. That's the way it works with goofs like him, who come to the boards and really don't have anything to offer anyone as far as advice, help, or knowledge in the real world. They bust on some guy(me) with a low post count, whom they think is inferior in intellect from them because of some post count. Well, all I'm saying is that is bullshit is all bro. Personal Trainer here. NCSA certified. Been lifting for 18 years. Boxing for 7. And I'm 31 years old, so I'm not his fuckin "son" either. I think I deserve more than "if you had taken nolva before, you'd know that, which is the tone I am speaking of that he gave". I aint some punk who comes here to post shit just to fit in. I do have knowledge. Whatever. Maybe I overreracted.

And again, I was responding(which might have been wrong on my part) with what is the best choice for myself for long term anti-e use. In that case, Nolva is a way better choice from a safety point of view, and does work well enough for water-retention.
 
creep said:
Atomic Punk, two words....


"Anger Management"

Too bad you dont have anything better to do with that giant T400 boner but sit here and break my balls over a situation that isn't yours in the first place.

One word for you......"Girlfriend".

Or maybe better in your case, three words "crack whore prostitute":D
 
Isn't nolva a SERM and not actually an anti-E? Nolva will relieve bloat, that is just not it's strongest attribute.
 
Atomic Punk said:


Too bad you dont have anything better to do with that giant T400 boner but sit here and break my balls over a situation that isn't yours in the first place.

One word for you......"Girlfriend".

Or maybe better in your case, three words "crack whore prostitute"

Damn bro, relax... I'm not trying to break your balls.. I just thought your reaction to this post was blow out of proportion.

And as for my boner.. It's well taken care of, thanks for asking...
 
creep said:


Damn bro, relax... I'm not trying to break your balls.. I just thought your reaction to this post was blow out of proportion.

And as for my boner.. It's well taken care of, thanks for asking...

Dude, I was kidding. That's what the :D:D was for. Good for you on the boner thing btw.....:fro:
 
Atomic Punk said:


"Tata"? Gay much?

far from it, i was being sarcastic if your dumb ass couldn't figure that one out. why are you running your big mouth so much for anyways ? way to get off to a good start.
 
Atomic Punk said:


No "rage" here creep. I didn't appreciate the dudes initial tone is all. I know damn well he saw my post count, and assumed that I didn't have a clue what I was talking about because of it. That's the way it works with goofs like him, who come to the boards and really don't have anything to offer anyone as far as advice, help, or knowledge in the real world. They bust on some guy(me) with a low post count, whom they think is inferior in intellect from them because of some post count. Well, all I'm saying is that is bullshit is all bro. Personal Trainer here. NCSA certified. Been lifting for 18 years. Boxing for 7. And I'm 31 years old, so I'm not his fuckin "son" either. I think I deserve more than "if you had taken nolva before, you'd know that, which is the tone I am speaking of that he gave". I aint some punk who comes here to post shit just to fit in. I do have knowledge. Whatever. Maybe I overreracted.

And again, I was responding(which might have been wrong on my part) with what is the best choice for myself for long term anti-e use. In that case, Nolva is a way better choice from a safety point of view, and does work well enough for water-retention.

BTW, as much as u want to think that, i never looked at your post count. your 31 years old acting like this. pretty sad if you ask me.
 
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