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[manny78]

Re: 2/3's of the Iraqi conscript army ready to surrender

Sky News

'CONSCRIPTS TO SURRENDER'

Two-thirds of Iraq's conscript army are ready to surrender without a fight, according to US military sources in Kuwait.


Two army divisions totalling 20,000 troops based in the south of Iraq are set to give themselves up to Allied forces in nearby Kuwait, the sources told Sky News reporter Colin Brazier.

The sources said Iraq's 11th infantry and 51st mechanised divisions were "ready to capitulate".

They said troops from the 6th armoured division were also believed to be considering giving themselves up.

Brazier, with US troops in Kuwait, said recent intelligence briefings had reported the troops were badly motivated.

Asked why the conscripts would surrender, Sky's Foreign Affairs Editor Tim Marshall said: "They are underfed, underpaid and extremely scared."

Sky correspondent David Chater, in Baghdad, said there had been a lot of campaigning by Allied forces to encourage conscripts to give themselves up.

US planes have been dropping leaflets in Iraq urging Iraqi troops to surrender.

Chater said the decision was "no real surprise" - but the crucial matter was whether Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard would fight.

Last Updated: 07:03 UK, Thursday March 20, 2003

That's sad I was expecting a better show.

 

[Zebo]

I gassed my wife this morning. Had to turn on the exhaust fan in the bathroom and everything.........

 

[muscle_geek]

Re: 2/3's of the Iraqi conscript army ready to surrender

Sky News

'CONSCRIPTS TO SURRENDER'

Two-thirds of Iraq's conscript army are ready to surrender without a fight, according to US military sources in Kuwait.


Two army divisions totalling 20,000 troops based in the south of Iraq are set to give themselves up to Allied forces in nearby Kuwait, the sources told Sky News reporter Colin Brazier.

The sources said Iraq's 11th infantry and 51st mechanised divisions were "ready to capitulate".

They said troops from the 6th armoured division were also believed to be considering giving themselves up.

Brazier, with US troops in Kuwait, said recent intelligence briefings had reported the troops were badly motivated.

Asked why the conscripts would surrender, Sky's Foreign Affairs Editor Tim Marshall said: "They are underfed, underpaid and extremely scared."

Sky correspondent David Chater, in Baghdad, said there had been a lot of campaigning by Allied forces to encourage conscripts to give themselves up.

US planes have been dropping leaflets in Iraq urging Iraqi troops to surrender.

Chater said the decision was "no real surprise" - but the crucial matter was whether Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard would fight.

Last Updated: 07:03 UK, Thursday March 20, 2003

No surprise here either. I was in Gulf War I and had the job of rounding up the cowards that surrendered. There is not a courageous soul among them. Also, the ridiculous reports that there will be 500,000 Iraqis killed are just stupid and reports of heavy American casualties are crazy. There is a higher likelyhood that we will kill more of our own with friendly fire than the Iraqi's will. That has always been a problem.

It also appears that the argument that we shouldn't attack Iraq because we cannot go after Al Qaeda at the same time has been disspelled. Anti-War protesters are idiots and chicken shits. We're doing a good thing and the future will show that Bush's leadership and action was responsible for radically ending the threat of terrorism. Terrorists are not going to be more active. They are cowards and we have them running scared.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Saddam's famous gas attack against the Kurds occurred nearly 20 years ago. So "what does that have to do with anything now?"

What does it have to do with anything now? A Lot considering Saddam is still in charge. Whoever ordered these "alleged" tests on US soldiers is not likely to still hold any power in the US military. That's assuming that this incident even ocurred at all.

 

[muscle_geek]

40 years ago. Who cares.

 

[HansNZ]

What does it have to do with anything now? A Lot considering Saddam is still in charge. Whoever ordered these "alleged" tests on US soldiers is not likely to still hold any power in the US military. That's assuming that this incident even ocurred at all.

So you are playing up a time division for the purposes of saying that your case is "different".

I notice this time division has been conveniently overlooked while French bashing has been goingg on. We've heard endless comments about how the Americans saved everyone 60 years ago and before.

Typical double standard.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

So you are playing up a time division for the purposes of saying that your case is "different".

No, that wasn't a time division. I'm pointing out that the same person who ordered the gas attacks on his own country and invaded his neighbor is still in charge.

 

[HansNZ]

No, that wasn't a time division. I'm pointing out that the same person who ordered the gas attacks on his own country and invaded his neighbor is still in charge.

OK then, for argument's sake I will accept your reply. Sadly though this brings up a whole new double standard. What about Ariel Sharon in Israel? He was committing war crimes against the Lebanese at much the same time as Saddam was gassing Kurds. Are the Americans giving him ultimatums to leave Israel?

 

[EF Sam]

Please use the war sticky.

 

[Delinquent]

Oil fires in Southern Iraq