Wanting to extend cycle

[Big_Joe]

Hi all
I am doing my first cycle of sus250 twice a week. I was going to run it for 8 weeks but it's going well. Only side is a little oily skin. Strength is up but haven't put on much weight. I was thinking of extending the cycle to 12 weeks and adding something like primo, tren or something else. I would like to know what people think.

 

[bluehen]

Hi all
I am doing my first cycle of sus250 twice a week. I was going to run it for 8 weeks but it's going well. Only side is a little oily skin. Strength is up but haven't put on much weight. I was thinking of extending the cycle to 12 weeks and adding something like primo, tren or something else. I would like to know what people think.

You can extend it to 12 weeks but you should wait till the second cycle before adding another drug to the mix. BTW do you have you PCT lined up?

 

[Big_Joe]

You can extend it to 12 weeks but you should wait till the second cycle before adding another drug to the mix. BTW do you have you PCT lined up?

Of course. I work hard at keeping my shit together.

I was thinking about adding primo as I taper off test. I was hoping to avoid a crash and keep more of the gains.

 

[bluehen]

Of course. I work hard at keeping my shit together.

I was thinking about adding primo as I taper off test. I was hoping to avoid a crash and keep more of the gains.

A proper pct will be the best thing to keep your gains but using primo will not hurt.

 

[Outtlaw]

I wouldnt waste your time with primo, you're trying to bulk here. How much have you gained so far? If you've already gotten like 15lbs, then just ride it out to week 10 and do pct. You can probably get another couple #'s without adding another drug. If you're gains have been really struggling, then throw in some dbol for a couple weeks and then start pct.

 

[Big_Joe]

I wouldnt waste your time with primo, you're trying to bulk here. How much have you gained so far? If you've already gotten like 15lbs, then just ride it out to week 10 and do pct. You can probably get another couple #'s without adding another drug. If you're gains have been really struggling, then throw in some dbol for a couple weeks and then start pct.

My weight is only up about five pounds at week six. But my strength is way up. I am not to hot on the idea of using orals. I'm fifty and my liver has been through enough for one lifetime already.

Both test and primo are fairly easy on the liver, that's the big reason I was thinking about primo. I am a little disappointed at not putting on more muscle but I'll settle for strength gains. But I want to keep them when I come off. Again that's why primo.

My body has been through a lot. Had my last chemo for lymphoma 17 months ago. Was in intensive care for a week on three separate occasions. I'm rebuilding but it's a slow process.

My eating is together but I don't think my absorption of nutrients is very good. I have a lot of digestion problems from the chemo, tore me up big time.

Besides my strength being up so is my endurance. I am doing two a days. I go to the gym at five am and do thirty minutes on a precore. I push myself to burn six hundred cals in thirty minutes. I then go back around two pm and do forty five minutes of martial arts practice and then lift for about an hour to an hour and a half. Considering I couldn't bend at the waste because of the pain in my guts after chemo I think this is pretty good.

 

[Outtlaw]

My weight is only up about five pounds at week six. But my strength is way up. I am not to hot on the idea of using orals. I'm fifty and my liver has been through enough for one lifetime already.

Both test and primo are fairly easy on the liver, that's the big reason I was thinking about primo. I am a little disappointed at not putting on more muscle but I'll settle for strength gains. But I want to keep them when I come off. Again that's why primo.

My body has been through a lot. Had my last chemo for lymphoma 17 months ago. Was in intensive care for a week on three separate occasions. I'm rebuilding but it's a slow process.

My eating is together but I don't think my absorption of nutrients is very good. I have a lot of digestion problems from the chemo, tore me up big time.

Besides my strength being up so is my endurance. I am doing two a days. I go to the gym at five am and do thirty minutes on a precore. I push myself to burn six hundred cals in thirty minutes. I then go back around two pm and do forty five minutes of martial arts practice and then lift for about an hour to an hour and a half. Considering I couldn't bend at the waste because of the pain in my guts after chemo I think this is pretty good.

Im glad you're doing better now. That extra cardio your doing could be cutting into your gains. But you might need that cardio work to help with your recovery. You can try the primo, but I'd be surprised if you get much of anything out of it unless you're willing to run a high dose of it. Anything less than 600mg and I wouldnt even waste your time. Sust is much more effective than primo and you see the gains you have off the 500mg sust, so you can do your math for what you might get out of primo.

 

[Apexx]

Glad to hear that you're doing well after everything you've been though. As for your cycle, I see no problem extending it to 12 weeks and then starting pct. I wouldn't add anything else though if you cannot do orals. Definitley stay away from tren. You're body has already gone though enough.

Try a test/deca combo for the next cycle if you're looking to put on some nice mass. Make sure you have your ancillaries to keep the water retention down. At your age, and with the probs you're already dealing with, you don't need high blood pressure adding to them.

Good luck bro

Hi all
I am doing my first cycle of sus250 twice a week. I was going to run it for 8 weeks but it's going well. Only side is a little oily skin. Strength is up but haven't put on much weight. I was thinking of extending the cycle to 12 weeks and adding something like primo, tren or something else. I would like to know what people think.

 

[hanibal]

do 12 weeks w/ proper PCT. wait 8-12 weeks and maybe do tren then w/ prop and primo. don't waste primo while trying to bulk. use it to get hard and lean.
i wouldn't fuck w/ tren at all if this is your first cycle.

 

[Big_Joe]

Thanks for all the help. I'm a little concerned about deca. It is easy on the body but it shows up in testing for a long time. I was thinking of doing the Arnold martial arts expo this coming March but being honest with myself I don't think I will be ready. So I am going to wait one year and compete in Chinese form, Karate form and kumite. About 20 years ago Doc-Fai Wang invited me to compete in one of his tournaments. I thought it was going to be a local shootout and showed up with cutoff blue jeans and tee-shirt. It was international competition! The judges were the champion of Beijing, the champion of Shanghai and the successor to Chen Man-Ching's school. Everybody had costumes and I felt underdressed but I took fourth.


I think I had cancer for at least ten years. I kept going to Kaiser with all sorts of weird problems. They kept telling me nothing was wrong go home. The thing that saved me was I fellout out of state. I was in so much pain the hospital I went to put me on a morphine pump. I could give myself a shot of morphine every six minutes if I wanted. Kaiser wanted me to get on a plane and come back before I could be diagnosed!! The doc at the hospital wouldn't go for it and sent my biopsy to the Mayo Clinic and they diagnosed me with cancer. SO when I went back to Kaiser they couldn't jerk me around.

My advise, if you have Kaiser and think something is wrong with you, pay the money and go to a different doctor. Have them run all the tests needed to find out what it is. Then with the data go back and have Kaiser treat you. With that said, it's not the doctors at Kaiser, it's the administration. They set the "acceptable" range for the tests they give. You have to be out of range before you can see a doctor. The people that give you the tests are third world low cost labor, not doctors.

It's like my wife said. "That's how they cut costs. They don't treat you, they just let you die!!!"