want to run first cycle need help!!

[serenade]

i want to go on my first steroid cycle cause i am stuck and have hit a plaeteau,i weigh 154pounds ,70kg,9percent body fat.i want to gain more masss and keep it,,i want atleast 20-25 ibs if i can keep 15-17 i would be glad,need your help.
the only steroid available to me is sustanon 250,proviron,there is no clomid here,or nolvadex,also there is deca durabolin,ple i need help with how to cycle it,
again i dont want to have the shutdown,called deca dick and all that so i will rather u advice me on dosages that wont affect me adversely,and again the acne thing ,pls
i currently run a three day split,exercise is not the problem and i eat 5times daily pls i need help.i am 26 yrs old

 

[Macronne]

Okay bro, how long have you been training for?

You can do a 10 weeks cycle of sustanon at 250mg/week. and if you can find dbols, do that to at 25mg/week for 4 weeks. you said you dont have clomid, or Nolvadex. I am sure every country have it, maybe not the same trade name. try searching for the scientific name

Clomid: Clomiphene Citrate
Nolvadex: Tamoxifen

Also do you have HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin) in your country. Try asking about that too, cause this is the most importnant thing, to keep your gains without clomid, nolva and HCG you wont be able to keep most of your gains

 

[initagain]

I was in the same boat as you about 170lbs and about 10%. The prevouis post was correct how long have you been traning and how old?

My first cycle ever i ran Dbol 25MG per week for 6 weeks and I ran Sus250 at 500 a week for 8 weeks. I had some solid gains. This was over 5 years ago. I dont remember the exact gains but by the end of the cycle their was a noticable difference.

I will tell you food and caloric intake will be very important on this cycle. You need to do the research and be prepared to by allot of food. The gear is one thing but the food is going to be just as important.

 

[LVTitan]

yes when i'm ON i spend more a month on food and than the gear. if you're on this forum then that means you have access to the internet. if you have access to the internet, you have access to clomid/nolvadex and hcg (as well as any other gear you might need) i know there are those who disagree with that, but some people have gotten plenty of gear that way w/out being ripped off.

 

[help4john]

IMHO.....don't think about starting the cycle until you have your PCT and necessary supplies in order.

 

[ericahls]

You must have your Post Cycle Therapy in order before you start your cycle or your will know the wrath of Estrogen.

 

[serenade]

i have being training for a year now,but i just got a modelling job,and they require i put on some beef,i have some shows for january,i need to be in the best state ever.and again i am in africa ,nigeria to be precise.pls i need your help

 

[ericahls]

i have being training for a year now,but i just got a modelling job,and they require i put on some beef,i have some shows for january,i need to be in the best state ever.and again i am in africa ,nigeria to be precise.pls i need your help

serenade the problem you will have with using Sus 250 is acne and water retention. You are modeling so I assume that they picked you due to your ascetics. The only way to minimize the water retention and avoid the additional androgenic side-effects that Proviron will bring to the mix is to use Arimidex or my favorite Letrozole. Since you say you can’t get these products then use 50mg – 100mg of Proviron along with 500mg / week of Sus 250. Really take extra care to shower right after your work out and be religious about applying acne medication to help minimize the acne. If you weren’t modeling I wouldn't press this last point but since ascetics are important, it’s a must.

 

[kahbab]

hey bro,

listen carefully to these people. if you have a computer than you can get the pct's you need and if not then just forget it because you are gonna be sorry if you do a full cycle and have no pct.

 

[Mr. Burns]

You're gonna like that sust!!!! Do the D-bol sust combo and you'll get there. I took very little amounts of both and loved it! Get the pct though or months from after the use you will be almost back to square one and this will be upsetting.

 

[carlsky]

shit, you don't weigh enough to start steroids. Be patient and lift naturally then turn to steroids. No point in wasting drugs when you can grow perfectly natural for a while.

 

[tiger88]

recommended first cycle.
Weeks 1-10 Testosterone enantate @ 500 mg (each week)
Weeks 1-4 dianabol (oral steroid) @ 25 mg everyday

Testosterone enantate @ 500 mg each week for 10 weeks (2 injections per week) 250 mg on Monday and 250 mg on Thursday. Testosterone enantate comes in 10 ml vials dosed @ 250 mg per ml. so basically two 10 ml vials is all you need for your first cycle.

As for the dianabol (oral steroid) it moderately harsh on the liver, but used for a short period and low dose, your liver wont have any trouble (please stay clear of alcohol and other drugs and even otc medicines that’s negatively effect your liver) A dose that I recommend for a newbie is 25-30 mg everyday for the first four weeks of a cycle. Almost all dianabol comes in 5 mg tabs so 5-6 tabs a day spread out though the day.

Total gear needed is 2 vials of Testosterone enantate and 140 tabs of dianabol (700 mg spread out over the first 4 weeks)

As to combat side effects from steroid use (for these particular drugs)
A drug called arimidex is used to combat bloat and bitch tits forming using Testosterone enantate and dianabol. It is an anti-estrogen and blocks the estrogen conversion from the steroids to forming (blocking keeps the side effects from happing) a dose of .5 mg everyday is the ideal dose used. It comes in an oral tab and also a liquid form (which is NOT INJECTED, but drank) Take it every other day for the ten weeks.

For the liver, milk thistle works well at having liver cells stay strong and healthy. As for the hairline with Testosterone, propecia works awesome for this. 1 mg everyday is all that is needed. Also Proscar is the same thing but comes in 5 mg tabs and can be cut using a pill cutter into 1 mg doses. This drug also helps the prostate function while being juiced up. Test turns into DHT, and propecia stops DHT conversion, so very low chance of going bald  As for other supplements take your regular vitamins but stay away from creatine. UP UP UP your protein intake while on the gear. The Dianabol causes a very positive increase in nitrogen in your system which allows your body to absorb even more protein and hence more muscle gain.


Weeks 1-10 Testosterone enantate @ 500 mg (each week)
Weeks 1-4 dianabol (oral steroid) @ 25 mg everyday spreadout 4 hours
.5 mg of arimidex every other day for all 12 weeks (use right till pct starts)
1 mg of propecia (if needed) u may not need this

 

[LVTitan]

shit, you don't weigh enough to start steroids. Be patient and lift naturally then turn to steroids. No point in wasting drugs when you can grow perfectly natural for a while.

not always true carlsky, i could never break past 118lbs naturally with good diet and training for years. i was pretty much at my peak, i am a very small guy. right now i'm 147lbs, and maintain 135-140 off cycle.



and tiger, not everyone can affored arimidex that shit is expensive! i have clom/nolva on hand, but to be honest at least i have been blessed w/very little to no tendency for gyno/bloating. i retain a little water around my waist but as skinny as my frame is it doesn't look bad. i never had any estrogen related problems w/3 cycles of test before and never had ancillaries then.
also as i also recommend having the adex or others on hand , i wouldn't necessarily recommend start taking them from the beginning to the end of the cycle. i would say only use them if you start to get some sides (itchy or puffy nipples for example) a little bloat is not bad, as the extra water in your muscle does add some temporary size and lubricates the joints. especially with compounds such as test , it has been proven that the slight elevation in estrogen can be beneficial to the gains.
titan

 

[tiger88]

and tiger, not everyone can affored arimidex that shit is expensive!
titan

shit bro....juice is the cheapest part...supplements and axiulliares and just food what are costly

 

[serenade]

well,i appreciate all what you guys are doing for me ,all the advice ,this place is a nice place to be.
but quick questions ,i have taken my first shot of sustanon 250.i took just 250ml,and i going to be taken that for 10 weeks,along the line i want to add deca durabolin,maybe take that for 5 weeks,you can see i am taking at low dosages,will i get acne from such a low dose?
i did some searching nd i got clomid and proviron ,i also found nolvadex?is it okay,now i can afford only two at a time clomid and proviron ,or clomid and nolvadex,
when am i supposed to take all this pct?towards the end of the cycle?wait a week after end of cycle and start taking and for how long?pls help.i really appreciate your replys

 

[slat1]

don't waste your time or money running a cycle if you don't have both Clomid and HCG. Sure you will gain some lbs. You will then watch them go away as your body crashes and produces boat loads of estrogen. You will be up a few pounds in the end but it will be water and fat. Do it right. Get your PCT in place.
Also, if you use 250mgs of sust a week there is no need to front load with dbol. Sust has short acting test esters in it already.
Good luck