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Video of night club fire.
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Spartacus
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from what I can see in the video that club was not "packed"...hell you could almost walk right up to the stage without touching anyone else..far from most nightclub standards of being "packed"
big_bad_buff
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I dont see how that many people could have died. it seems on the music stopped and people start screeming, then everyone would be out very fast. unless the building was drenched in gas or something, how could the fire spread so fast that it could catch people off gaurd as it did. CRAZY
circusgirl
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I've heard some more...
The venue had a capacity of 300, there were 250 in there at the time. 90 are dead, 30 critical (ie about to die slowly and nastiy over the next few days). That's almost HALF of the attendees pretty much toast.
Apparently, club management gave the pyrotechnics the go-ahead. A fan pointed out on another board that the band are seasoned performers, They have been gigging and touring for over 15 years. They hire people to do all the firework stuff, roadies, management etc. Therefore, it's obvious that someone in management needs a kick in the ass. And it's really really strange that this happened at all - you'd think the club managers would KNOW fireworks were not safe in their club, no?
BTW firemen on this board will probably confirm that a fire will take 2-3 mintues to go from small to raging inferno at 300 degrees centigrade. It really does happen that fast when it does. If you're EVER in a potential fire sitaution, GET THE FUCK OUT. Don't get your coat, don't wait around. 30 seconds may be all you have. I can't emphasise this more. This is also why smoke alarms are necesary in homes.
Also, apparently the club had lots of old materials, the kind that emit toxic smoke when they burn. There were folks collapsed from lack of oxygen blocking many of the exits, although people did run to them all. It was dark, no-one could see anything.
I can't imagine much worse than being stuck in this sort of thing. I'll rememebr to check for the exits every time I'm out in public in future... as in, have a "feel" for where they re without looking, as smoke blocks your view. (I already do this on planes).
The venue had a capacity of 300, there were 250 in there at the time. 90 are dead, 30 critical (ie about to die slowly and nastiy over the next few days). That's almost HALF of the attendees pretty much toast.
Apparently, club management gave the pyrotechnics the go-ahead. A fan pointed out on another board that the band are seasoned performers, They have been gigging and touring for over 15 years. They hire people to do all the firework stuff, roadies, management etc. Therefore, it's obvious that someone in management needs a kick in the ass. And it's really really strange that this happened at all - you'd think the club managers would KNOW fireworks were not safe in their club, no?
BTW firemen on this board will probably confirm that a fire will take 2-3 mintues to go from small to raging inferno at 300 degrees centigrade. It really does happen that fast when it does. If you're EVER in a potential fire sitaution, GET THE FUCK OUT. Don't get your coat, don't wait around. 30 seconds may be all you have. I can't emphasise this more. This is also why smoke alarms are necesary in homes.
Also, apparently the club had lots of old materials, the kind that emit toxic smoke when they burn. There were folks collapsed from lack of oxygen blocking many of the exits, although people did run to them all. It was dark, no-one could see anything.
I can't imagine much worse than being stuck in this sort of thing. I'll rememebr to check for the exits every time I'm out in public in future... as in, have a "feel" for where they re without looking, as smoke blocks your view. (I already do this on planes).
big_bad_buff
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probably what everyone in hell are saying **man there really is a heaven in hell, and your life really does end when you least expect it. I can't emphasize this more**
can you imagin what hell would be like, going through this for eternity. oh I mean if there really is a place. willing to risk it?
can you imagin what hell would be like, going through this for eternity. oh I mean if there really is a place. willing to risk it?
PolishHammer1977
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The marshalls didn't see us last night @ the bar but I guess that means it will be tonight. lol
Truly an unfortunate situation up in Rhode Island.
Truly an unfortunate situation up in Rhode Island.
This won't bring a lost life back but I want to point out something.
Acoustical foams are made out of either polyurethane or melamine for the most part. For specific use, such as a night club you would need a foam with a Class 1 fire rating to pass code in most areas.
HOWEVER....
We are talking flame retardant and a foam even with the proof classification for its intended use will reach it's max heat resistance just over 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Think of such heat similar to boiling water which is 212 degrees Fahrenheit.
My point?
The foam, the interior of the club (which was probably not to code anyway) was not to blame for this tragic event, even if certain chemicals within the finishes on the ceilings, walls or floors could have irritated the situation.
Acoustical foams are made out of either polyurethane or melamine for the most part. For specific use, such as a night club you would need a foam with a Class 1 fire rating to pass code in most areas.
HOWEVER....
We are talking flame retardant and a foam even with the proof classification for its intended use will reach it's max heat resistance just over 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Think of such heat similar to boiling water which is 212 degrees Fahrenheit.
My point?
The foam, the interior of the club (which was probably not to code anyway) was not to blame for this tragic event, even if certain chemicals within the finishes on the ceilings, walls or floors could have irritated the situation.
naturally anabolic
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whats to blame is a band who uses pyrotechnics in a tiny little club....thats whats to blame.
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The Shadow
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I am training a client who was a wine distributor at that club when she lived there years ago.....back then the entire structure was old, old dried wood...no sprinkler at the time either...she said it was closed at various times due to general safety violations.
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The Shadow
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not really.....c'mon guys - the band's fault??
They had expressed consent from the club owner.....
They had expressed consent from the club owner.....
naturally anabolic
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if u watch the video its obvious where they set up there on stage fireworks that it would touch something and possibly set it on fire....the word of the day is COMMONSENSE.
Cornholio said:
The club owners deny giving permission to the band and the band insists that they had permission to use fireworks during their show within the club. This will be argued to death and I would imagine that there should be a written contract somewhere. (wishful thinking right?)
Personally I think it should come down to the person setting off the fireworks and then back to the club owners if indeed they gave permission for the fireworks.
Why? The person setting of the fireworks should be responsible to investigate the club for a potential fire hazards. If it is true that the club is an old wood frame structure without working sprinkler systems, poor fire egress, highly flammable decor -- whatever the case may be -- if you are responsible for setting off the fireworks you should be responsible for the setup as well.
First how complicated is it to have a couple fire extinguishers next to the stage if you are going to set off fireworks?
Secondly, who had the bright idea of setting the fireworks off with them touching a flammable surface? It looked like they were either touching the back wall of the stage area or within inches of it.
Secondly, who had the bright idea of setting the fireworks off with them touching a flammable surface? It looked like they were either touching the back wall of the stage area or within inches of it.
Big Johnson
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It seems as if everyone is missing a critical piece in the puzzle; alcohol.
So, we have 250 intoxicated people inside a club full of exposive fireworks and volatile liquids. Something catches fire, everybody's drinks go flying, people are slipping and falling all over the place, fights break out, bottles are broken, the fire spreads to the floor and on to the bar, heat makes the alcohol boil...
Man, talk about a bad scene.
So, we have 250 intoxicated people inside a club full of exposive fireworks and volatile liquids. Something catches fire, everybody's drinks go flying, people are slipping and falling all over the place, fights break out, bottles are broken, the fire spreads to the floor and on to the bar, heat makes the alcohol boil...
Man, talk about a bad scene.
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