Vets....Help a Bro Out...

[702daswoll1]

Ok Im on week 7 of a 14 week Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Sustanon/Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Cycle. Im on 750 of Sustanon a week and 500 of Deca. I used the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at the beginning for a kick. I have been on 20mg of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ed since the cycle started. I have been off the Dbol for one week..

Here is the problema: My nipples are itchy and a little swollen. I definitely see a very little bit of gynecomastia coming on.

Im thinking its progesterone from the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - since Im on the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for the estro. What should I get from AG guys to stop this?

Im thinking Dostinex and up the nolva to 40mg ed.

 

[st8grad]

Not a vet, sorry....

You might be ok just adding in the dostinex and leaving the nolva at 20. Of course you could also think about adding in Winny to the cycle if that suits you.

You may also just be a little bloated and getting some nip puff from that. When you are "worried" about gyno it's amazing how much you nips will "seem" to itch.

Ok Im on week 7 of a 14 week Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Sustanon/Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Cycle. Im on 750 of Sustanon a week and 500 of Deca. I used the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at the beginning for a kick. I have been on 20mg of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ed since the cycle started. I have been off the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for one week..

Here is the problema: My nipples are itchy and a little swollen. I definitely see a very little bit of gynecomastia coming on.

Im thinking its progesterone from the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - since Im on the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for the estro. What should I get from AG guys to stop this?

Im thinking Dostinex and up the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - to 40mg ed.

 

[702daswoll1]

Good advice, thanks.. I have winny coming any day now so that will probably help from what i have heard. Im also ordering some dostinex today and some liquid albuterol(cant wait to try it)... Hopefully it will go away.. Im thinking maybe it was the dbol specifically and Im done taking that so we shall see. The itching is not in my mind that is for sure.

 

[st8grad]

Bumping the nolva can't hurt then. I'm pretty sure it has been proven that nolva doesn't make progesterone side effects worse.

Good advice, thanks.. I have Winstrol - stanozolol coming any day now so that will probably help from what i have heard. Im also ordering some dostinex today and some liquid albuterol(cant wait to try it)... Hopefully it will go away.. Im thinking maybe it was the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - specifically and Im done taking that so we shall see. The itching is not in my mind that is for sure.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Dude the important question is why did you start out without any anti progesterone compounds?

 

[st8grad]

Dude the important question is why did you start out without any anti progesterone compounds?

And then there is that too of course.....

 

[702daswoll1]

That is the important question huh? Not in my opinion. But ya know opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Even a guy that still thinks dreads are cool.

 

[nisser512]

Don't use nolva with deca. Stop using it and start using an AI.

 

[MichaelScott]

looking good in your avi, my advice will be of no use

Ok Im on week 7 of a 14 week Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Sustanon/Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Cycle. Im on 750 of Sustanon a week and 500 of Deca. I used the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at the beginning for a kick. I have been on 20mg of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ed since the cycle started. I have been off the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for one week..

Here is the problema: My nipples are itchy and a little swollen. I definitely see a very little bit of gynecomastia coming on.

Im thinking its progesterone from the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - since Im on the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for the estro. What should I get from AG guys to stop this?

Im thinking Dostinex and up the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - to 40mg ed.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

That is the important question huh? Not in my opinion. But ya know opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Even a guy that still thinks dreads are cool.

Well I agree it's not the most pressing issue at the moment, but nonetheless it's standard advice to have all ancillaries possible around just in case.

HTH.

 

[NickyE3]

drop the nolva. it upregulates prog receptors

 

[702daswoll1]

Cool. Just fuckin wit ya anywayz. And to answer your question. I started this cycle before I learned the difference between prgesterone and estro. I know that was a huge mistake.

 

[NickyE3]

a small dose of letro will clear that shit up
like said before....drop the nolva

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Cool. Just fuckin wit ya anywayz. And to answer your question. I started this cycle before I learned the difference between prgesterone and estro. I know that was a huge mistake.

 

[702daswoll1]

Im going to get the letro. Thanks...

 

[702daswoll1]

Ohhh and one more little tid bit. Im not very impressed with the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - .. Its BD's Decabol and to be honest I think it sucks. Maybe it has not kicked in yet? Its been 7 weeks.

Cant wait to try that trenbolone!!!!!!!

 

[st8grad]

drop the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . it upregulates prog receptors

I'm pretty sure that they idea of progesterone gyno has been debunked. However, Letrozole does reduce progesterone levels in the body. But since gyno is caused by estrogen, then any aromitase inhibitor will work. Arimidex might be the better choice in terms of how harsh letrozole can be. Unless you run the letrozole at a very low dose.

I'm prettty sure Anthony Roberts and some others agree about progesterone gyno.

 

[ironclaw]

Ok Im on week 7 of a 14 week Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Sustanon/Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Cycle. Im on 750 of Sustanon a week and 500 of Deca. I used the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at the beginning for a kick. I have been on 20mg of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ed since the cycle started. I have been off the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for one week..

Here is the problema: My nipples are itchy and a little swollen. I definitely see a very little bit of gynecomastia coming on.

Im thinking its progesterone from the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - since Im on the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for the estro. What should I get from AG guys to stop this?

Im thinking Dostinex and up the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - to 40mg ed.

hey bro, I've been right where you are at before,, the first time I ran deca, I had to stop after 3 weeks due to gyno problems. First, you need to get some cabaser or dostinex asap, take .5mg eod for a week, then drop it to .5 mg e3d. Second, you should always run winny with a nandrolone (whether it is deca or tren) winny will help with any progest gyno. Third, since the gyno is starting to set in, get some letro and run it at 2.5 mg ed until the gyno starts to subside, then back it down to .5 mg ed when the gyno is gone. You can also take vit b6, it will help some, take 300 to 400 mg ed until the gyno goes away. and last, if none of this works within 2 weeks, drop the deca... (stop taking the nolva, it will make progest gyno worse)

 

[NickyE3]

I'm pretty sure that they idea of progesterone gynecomastia has been debunked. However, Letrozole does reduce progesterone levels in the body. But since gynecomastia is caused by estrogen, then any aromitase inhibitor will work. Arimidex might be the better choice in terms of how harsh letrozole can be. Unless you run the letrozole at a very low dose.

I'm prettty sure Anthony Roberts and some others agree about progesterone gynecomastia.

it has definitely not been debunked........
not gonna comment on AR cuz I don't and won't read his stuff

 

[st8grad]

it has definitely not been debunked........
not gonna comment on AR cuz I don't and won't read his stuff

Well either way, switching to an AI and dostinex should do the trick. Better safe then sorry anyway.

 

[NickyE3]

Well either way, switching to an aromatase inhibitor and dostinex should do the trick. Better safe then sorry anyway.

+1

 

[hyp1]

drop the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . it upregulates prog receptors

I fully agree,don't use the novladex when having problems with gyno from either tren or deca.Use dostinex and femara

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

it has definitely not been debunked........
not gonna comment on AR cuz I don't and won't read his stuff

dunno about AR, but I think people need to understand the de novo synthesis of cholesterol based compounds before they even start considering the juice.