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Borhais212
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VERY strange (& long) cycle, Need advice on PCT**!!
OK here goes,
Now i know ill get chopped up for this, but ive been using AAS for about 6 years on and off (i started when i was 18). I never desired to gain heuge or quick like most builders do, nor have i never adhered to a " pyramid cycles" or "stacks" or any of that sort. Whenever ive used juice, i only have used one shot a week of whatever it was (chronologically it has been decca 50mg/ml, ganabol 50mg/ml, primobolan 50mg & winny 50/mg sustanon 250/mg, test prop (1st at 50mg, then 100mg), back to sust250, then to EQ @ 200mg). the longest off period ive had was 8-9 months after the decca in the beginning, then after that its been at the most one to 2 months, with as long as 6-9 month intervals of being "on"
I started when i was a senior in highschool using deca 50mg/ml, for about 3-4 months. After that i had the 8-9 month rest till the summer of my freshman yr in college. The longer periods of rest of maybe a month or 2 might have been around then, but around my junior and senior year @ college i was bascially always on it, and this time being my longest period of using sust250 (prob 60-75% of my junior and senior yr)
I then went on to lawschool and was using @ EQ 200mg for the past 2 years (there might have been a week of a sust250/prop100/cyp200(3 times); but if i took the sust shots it would be one every TWO weeks) . the only "off" periods ive had were in between finals when id have to study hardcore for about 1 month. May you mind i have never done a PCT at all during any time since i started.
Just recently i have been off for a month and a little and have noticed differences in my body (probably cause ive never been off of it at all bascially!!). I felt kinda depressed for the first week, but im too busy and basically it has signifigantly subsided and i feel fine. I have lost mass, but i was expecting that (although im sure most of you are wondering how i gained to begin with (according ot the boards my doses should have "no effect" but im sure length was a factor (i started 18yrs old @ 130 lb and ive maintained 185 and 15% for a long time @ 24 yrs old)))
My balls felt a little "wierd" and sore for the first week, but then decended and felt ok. I DEFNITLEY have noticed atrophy (probably seeing all that loose skin got me alarmed) and this is what bascially promted me to join and wrtie this thread. I never listened to my buddies who talk about "clomid" this "novla" that or "HCG" but i just have put in an order for HCG **STAT** ( i have clomid but stopped using it the 1st week (after 2 days) cause it made me emotional too, and for anyone taking lawschool exams, thats not a good mix w/ studyin)
But my question in a nutshell (no pun intended): is using my lower doses for a long time just as bad (at least testicularwise etc..) in recovery with "normal" or "high" does short cycles? I know "length of use" is most likely to be the answer, but am i mostly out of the "worst" of it now?, seeing that my testes have decended (although smaller) and my emotions feel stable ( I know blood tests are the only way to truly tell)... but ive never heard or read someone whos used it like me... anyone has got info for this particular situation ??
Thanks Guys!!
P.S.> The last checkup i got in nov2004 from the doc i told him i juiced for awhile (although not nearly the detail ive given here) he did a bunch of tests but i dont think he even checked for juice related problems (im getting a copy of the blood tests this week) i figure if he had an eye for something he'd see a red flag if there was one ( the ONLY question he asked me was when the last time i shot up was (it was that week and and i told him that!))
OK here goes,
Now i know ill get chopped up for this, but ive been using AAS for about 6 years on and off (i started when i was 18). I never desired to gain heuge or quick like most builders do, nor have i never adhered to a " pyramid cycles" or "stacks" or any of that sort. Whenever ive used juice, i only have used one shot a week of whatever it was (chronologically it has been decca 50mg/ml, ganabol 50mg/ml, primobolan 50mg & winny 50/mg sustanon 250/mg, test prop (1st at 50mg, then 100mg), back to sust250, then to EQ @ 200mg). the longest off period ive had was 8-9 months after the decca in the beginning, then after that its been at the most one to 2 months, with as long as 6-9 month intervals of being "on"
I started when i was a senior in highschool using deca 50mg/ml, for about 3-4 months. After that i had the 8-9 month rest till the summer of my freshman yr in college. The longer periods of rest of maybe a month or 2 might have been around then, but around my junior and senior year @ college i was bascially always on it, and this time being my longest period of using sust250 (prob 60-75% of my junior and senior yr)
I then went on to lawschool and was using @ EQ 200mg for the past 2 years (there might have been a week of a sust250/prop100/cyp200(3 times); but if i took the sust shots it would be one every TWO weeks) . the only "off" periods ive had were in between finals when id have to study hardcore for about 1 month. May you mind i have never done a PCT at all during any time since i started.
Just recently i have been off for a month and a little and have noticed differences in my body (probably cause ive never been off of it at all bascially!!). I felt kinda depressed for the first week, but im too busy and basically it has signifigantly subsided and i feel fine. I have lost mass, but i was expecting that (although im sure most of you are wondering how i gained to begin with (according ot the boards my doses should have "no effect" but im sure length was a factor (i started 18yrs old @ 130 lb and ive maintained 185 and 15% for a long time @ 24 yrs old)))
My balls felt a little "wierd" and sore for the first week, but then decended and felt ok. I DEFNITLEY have noticed atrophy (probably seeing all that loose skin got me alarmed) and this is what bascially promted me to join and wrtie this thread. I never listened to my buddies who talk about "clomid" this "novla" that or "HCG" but i just have put in an order for HCG **STAT** ( i have clomid but stopped using it the 1st week (after 2 days) cause it made me emotional too, and for anyone taking lawschool exams, thats not a good mix w/ studyin)
But my question in a nutshell (no pun intended): is using my lower doses for a long time just as bad (at least testicularwise etc..) in recovery with "normal" or "high" does short cycles? I know "length of use" is most likely to be the answer, but am i mostly out of the "worst" of it now?, seeing that my testes have decended (although smaller) and my emotions feel stable ( I know blood tests are the only way to truly tell)... but ive never heard or read someone whos used it like me... anyone has got info for this particular situation ??
Thanks Guys!!
P.S.> The last checkup i got in nov2004 from the doc i told him i juiced for awhile (although not nearly the detail ive given here) he did a bunch of tests but i dont think he even checked for juice related problems (im getting a copy of the blood tests this week) i figure if he had an eye for something he'd see a red flag if there was one ( the ONLY question he asked me was when the last time i shot up was (it was that week and and i told him that!))
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