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very interestin read on gear.

Lot's of speculation going on there -- which is fine since I'm not one of these guys who demands studies to back up a theory...but...you have to give reasons behind the thinking. He doesn't. And if you're going to use specific numbers like 270%, then state your reference, otherwise use terms such as "about" or "approximately" or "I'd venture to guess."

And all AAS reduce T levels.
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
nice read

Yea. I'd like to see some sources or read some of the original documentation. There seems to be a pattern to the drugs that have a positive effect on collagen. Wonder where the rest fit in? D-Bol? Tren? Any ideas Nelson?
 
digit0x said:
Yea. I'd like to see some sources or read some of the original documentation. There seems to be a pattern to the drugs that have a positive effect on collagen. Wonder where the rest fit in? D-Bol? Tren? Any ideas Nelson?

Again, they all increase collegen synthesis but as to which do more, I'd never seen any legit info. I do think the "drying" of joints from winstrol is overstated. It could simply be lowered estrogen.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Again, they all increase collegen synthesis but as to which do more, I'd never seen any legit info. I do think the "drying" of joints from winstrol is overstated. It could simply be lowered estrogen.


"While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen."

Reading says they are reduced. Or are you referring to the ones I mentioned specifically?
 
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