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velvett

There are a few women on this site that are not completly fucked in the head.

I still think that Ceebs is a man, she thinks WAY to logically. It's like someone put her thru a crazy strainer and out popped Ceebs.
 
There are logical women. ive met at least 1 in my life (which isnt saying alot, i dont get out much and probably have only 'known' 3 or so women in my life).
 
nordstrom said:
There are logical women. ive met at least 1 in my life (which isnt saying alot, i dont get out much and probably have only 'known' 3 or so women in my life).
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i once though i knew some logical women, but it was all an elaborate hoax, and the act broke down over time.
 
nordstrom said:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=3141444#post3141444


when was your man hating parade? you've always struck me as trying to be level headed when people start talking bad about one gender or the other. So what was your experience that drove you to that.
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Like two nearly three years ago.

I had dated a man for just shy of three years that told me he was in the process of divorce and I believed him. :rolleyes: I had stayed at his house, I had his office, cell and home numbers, I was friendly with his friends, blah blah, blah and I couldn't find any clues of him lying so I never thought he was lying to me.

Turned out he just about lived two lives. One house in CT with the wife and kid and another house in NY without the wife and kid. Two driver's licences one NY and one CT - I have no idea how - and it was simply time and the never ending divorce that made me curious.

I used all my real estate contacts to get a background check into all the properties he owned under his name, which came to three houses and 5 businesses in the NY & CT areas. Well, that's all I could find nonetheless - there could have been more. After that I paid to have a background check done because I couldn't believe that I had let myself be lied to at such a fantastic level.

One night I asked him while out dinner why he had lied and did he not think that someone would have been interested in him just to get laid.

He was startled at my frankness and yet didn't seem surprise when I left him there to finish his meal.

I've been making people - men and women - face the bullshit of their lives ever since.
 
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jnuts said:


In what ways?
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When I catch people in lies - I causally show them how I know that they have lied. It's really very simple - you just have to listen to what they say and wait for them to contradict what they have said in the past with something comeplety new and different.

Seems cruel I suppose but if it is so easy to lie about what we deem to be less important or ok to fib about where do draw the line as to what IS important?
 
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velvett said:



When I catch people in lies - I causally show them how I know that they have lied.
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Ahh... I do the same thing. I often find that it pisses people off quite quickly :)
 
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jnuts said:


Ahh... I do the same thing. I often find that it pisses people off quite quickly :)
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:FRlol:


Yes, but if they like you already and consider you worthy of their time they will begin to lie less or at least be more aware of what they say.
 
sk* said:
That's messed up, want me to kill him?

-sk
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Sweet.

Oddly enough I don't regret the experience.

He has a daugther that he will have to worry about soon and that seems to be punishment enough.
 
velvett said:



Oh - I meant he will worry when she discovers BOYZ and when they discover her. She should be 9 about now.
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Oh yeah, that is the time I start my firearms collection.
 
I'm scared of having a daughter, just because of that.

Too much shit to deal with. I know I would attach a camera on her, so I know she is always safe and I can see everything that goes on lol.

-sk
 
sk* said:
I'm scared of having a daughter, just because of that.

Too much shit to deal with. I know I would attach a camera on her, so I know she is always safe and I can see everything that goes on lol.

-sk
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lol me too. I'd be so intimidating to any boys she had over, lol.
 
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velvett said:
I've been making people - men and women - face the bullshit of their lives ever since.
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Thats a noble thing to do. I try and do a bit of it myself, but perhaps its the age or something, most people just ignore it or get mad
 
Shit, don't kill him Babe,....what say, I come up and we make him jealous for a weekend or two...

Heh heh heh

Much strenth to ya babe.


Ranger
 
whoa velvett...your life sounds a lot more exciting than mine....

that's some crazy shit....i would probably just look back and laugh...

people are fuckin idiots (not you, i mean him)
 
Ahem to the daughter thing, funny thing is that if I have a daughter, I'd probably kick the crap out of every guy she gets with but if I have a son, I'd encourage him to get with every girl he can.
 
outta curiousity velvett what was it that persuaded you to do these background checks and what first bit of evidence suggested he had 2 lives

to be honest it seems a really good way to get over someone (taking their cheating and casually shoving it in their face)....especially if you tend to emotionally over-invest in people (me)
 
danielson said:
outta curiousity velvett what was it that persuaded you to do these background checks and what first bit of evidence suggested he had 2 lives

to be honest it seems a really good way to get over someone (taking their cheating and casually shoving it in their face)....especially if you tend to emotionally over-invest in people (me)
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Dumb Luck.

I was in the car he was driving which he said was a rental car because his was in the "shop" and it just happened that I needed a tissue and he said there were some in the glove box.

When I pulled out the package of travel tissue I saw the red and white paper of his insurance card which I recoginzed because at that time we had the same insurance carrier.

Later that night I purposely left something in the car so I had to go back for it and I checked out the glove box. The insurance card was his, the car was his and the address on the card was in CT.

I didn't say anything to him because I knew that he had his father living in a house he bought him - I figured it could be the car his father used and he just didn't want to tell me.

As it turned out (I found out long after we stopped dating) the car was for the nanny to used to tote his daughter around.
 
jerkbox said:
that's some crazy shit....i would probably just look back and laugh...
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Yah pretty much.

He tore my heart out at the time but the experience was truly a ride and like I said I have no regrets. I was less angry to have been lied to as I was angry that someone made me the "other woman" without my knowing it.
 
Velvett, I think I love you (although I still want to have hot sweaty sex with Diasy).
 
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velvett said:

Seems cruel I suppose but if it is so easy to lie about what we deem to be less important or ok to fib about where do draw the line as to what IS important?
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yeah but you cant be so anal about lies/fibs and especially other people. If these people are your friends i see how ur protecting them, but otherwise a small fib or lie doesnt usually matter. Its the habitualy liers that rub me the wrong way :mad:

and besides, people NEVER like to be put in their place, no matter how right u are or how wrong they are. Im just like u,, very straighforward and frank when i find someoone bullshiting....u make a lot of people annoyed that way.......
 
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ColdCut said:


yeah but you cant be so anal about lies/fibs and especially other people. If these people are your friends i see how ur protecting them, but otherwise a small fib or lie doesnt usually matter. Its the habitualy liers that rub me the wrong way :mad:

and besides, people NEVER like to be put in their place, no matter how right u are or how wrong they are. Im just like u,, very straighforward and frank when i find someoone bullshiting....u make a lot of people annoyed that way.......
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Like everything you have to pick and choose - and you can accomplish your point with grace or run them over like you're driving a tank.

I have a very sarcastic sense of humor normally so people are never really sure if I'm kidding or serious. It's up to that person to be conscious of whether or not they represent the comment.

I know I'm evil.
 
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Hey Mister said:


In the process of divorce. lol
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It's ok - you can laugh.

My parents were "in process" for about 4 years when they decided it would be cheaper to stay together than fund their multiple lawyers family vacations.

My ex boss's divorce took three years - more than 20 years ago.

A lady that used to work with me started her divorce in 1999 - it's still not even near final.

The owner of the store that was next to my old place of employment had a 6 and a half year divorce.



Some are quick and some take many years.

(On a side note - pre nups are a good thing)
 
Tiervexx said:
I don't think that Velvett is a very happy person inside:D
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Why because I've been fucked over as many times as the men without having to babble endlessly about it while the men here bitch and moan day in and day out about women and what they have done to them?

You would have to know me and speak to me in person to see the joy I have tucked away in my heart.

You just have to be deserving to see it or rather feel it.
 
Everyone thinks their problems are more than anyone elses. This is human nature.

Not saying you've had a happy past, but people judge things relative to themselves.

-sk
 
velvett said:


Why because I've been fucked over as many times as the men without having to babble endlessly about it while the men here bitch and moan day in and day out about women and what they have done to them?

You would have to know me and speak to me in person to see the joy I have tucked away in my heart.

You just have to be deserving to see it or rather feel it.
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ahhhhh.

What did this guy do for a living anyway? jesus he sounds loaded.

so you dated a guy because he was rich and it turns out he was just using you for sex on the side and lying to you? Has that ever happened before in NYC, it sounds unnatural and unexpected.
 
nordstrom said:



ahhhhh.

What did this guy do for a living anyway? jesus he sounds loaded.

so you dated a guy because he was rich and it turns out he was just using you for sex on the side and lying to you? Has that ever happened before in NYC, it sounds unnatural and unexpected.
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He wasn't super rich - well off maybe.
He's a CPA.

I detect sarcasm.

We get used in most of the relationships we have - it's the natural progression of give and receive.

Again, this was so long ago and I have no regret about what had happened - it's in past right where it belongs.

I just wanted to answer your question.



Oh and I dated him because I thought his bald head was sexy, he was intelligent, rather sarcastic with a delicious ass and he always picked out the perfect bottle of wine.
 
I would just like to take this moment to say that velveet seems very bright and quite tough.

That dude had talent, too bad it didn't work. Homes, businesses, wives, girlfriends etc. How in the world does a guy get two drivers licenses? That would be sweet.
 
sk* said:
I'm scared of having a daughter, just because of that.

Too much shit to deal with. I know I would attach a camera on her, so I know she is always safe and I can see everything that goes on lol.
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hell yeah. i used to look at an old gf's sisters and be like... wow if our kids had looked like that i would never have slept and most likely spent my time in a homemade shooting range out back.
 
velvett said:


He wasn't super rich - well off maybe.
He's a CPA.

I detect sarcasm.

We get used in most of the relationships we have - it's the natural progression of give and receive.

Again, this was so long ago and I have no regret about what had happened - it's in past right where it belongs.

I just wanted to answer your question.

Oh and I dated him because I thought his bald head was sexy, he was intelligent, rather sarcastic with a delicious ass and he always picked out the perfect bottle of wine.
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You detect correctly (im a sarcastic asshole, dont take it personally). i just have less sympathy for women who date men for money (if that is what you did) and get fucked over than those who date them for other reasons. Same way i ahve less sympathy for men who date attractive women so they can fuck them then end up getting fucked financially/emotionally themselves.

im probably just jealous of men with money and the women they pull. If i had bank i'd be pulling an AAP and driving my Mercedes around hitting on girls. No different than the fat girls who say men who care about looks are 'superficial jerks' but if they lost 100 lbs overnight they'd be out in spandex the next day at the mall standing around doing nothing, waiting on men to hit on them.
 
This is a perfect example of why good people pay the price for the asses in the world. Not speaking for velvett, but once you get used or taken advantage of you tend to look at all people with doubt. :(
 
nordstrom said:

i just have less sympathy for women who date men for money (if that is what you did) and get fucked over than those who date them for other reasons. Same way i ahve less sympathy for men who date attractive women so they can fuck them then end up getting fucked financially/emotionally themselves.
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I totally agree.

Actually he pursued me - relentlessly and found my home phone number in my boss's roledex. (He was their CPA)

I'm less attracted to men with a lot of money and it's not because of the money - it's because of what the money (preceived power) does to them and how they feel that they own you because they choose to plan and pay for fancy dinners, weekend excursions and whatever else comes to mind.

If I'm with someone I don't want another father - one was enough thank you - yet I'll be the first person to tell you that it is not comfortable dating some who is not in a similiar financial bracket as I am.


That said - (I may contradict myself now) romance and affairs of the heart that are memorable are so few and to prevent the possiblity because someone you meet doesn't meet up to your list of checks and standards may actually prove to be a loss.

It's always been about the ride for me so no loss is forever and any pain you may feel will subside - eventually.
 
i dont know. i've given up on trying to meet people for the next few years while i try to put my head on straight. The whole '1997-2001' period is a traumatic daze that im trying to get over.

Theres nothing wrong with wanting someone of the same income as you, tahts normal, especially for women. Its no different than wanting someone as tall or taller than you.
 
velvett said:


I totally agree.

Actually he pursued me - relentlessly and found my home phone number in my boss's roledex. (He was their CPA)

I'm less attracted to men with a lot of money and it's not because of the money - it's because of what the money (preceived power) does to them and how they feel that they own you because they choose to plan and pay for fancy dinners, weekend excursions and whatever else comes to mind.

If I'm with someone I don't want another father - one was enough thank you - yet I'll be the first person to tell you that it is not comfortable dating some who is not in a similiar financial bracket as I am.


That said - (I may contradict myself now) romance and affairs of the heart that are memorable are so few and to prevent the possiblity because someone you meet doesn't meet up to your list of checks and standards may actually prove to be a loss.

It's always been about the ride for me so no loss is forever and any pain you may feel will subside - eventually.
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yes the ride rocks. although those daggers still seem to be in your back. most of the time you cant feel them, but sometimes they friggin sting like none other.
 
nordstrom said:


You detect correctly (im a sarcastic asshole, dont take it personally). i just have less sympathy for women who date men for money (if that is what you did) and get fucked over than those who date them for other reasons. Same way i ahve less sympathy for men who date attractive women so they can fuck them then end up getting fucked financially/emotionally themselves.

im probably just jealous of men with money and the women they pull. If i had bank i'd be pulling an AAP and driving my Mercedes around hitting on girls. No different than the fat girls who say men who care about looks are 'superficial jerks' but if they lost 100 lbs overnight they'd be out in spandex the next day at the mall standing around doing nothing, waiting on men to hit on them.
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I'll bet I got out more last week than you did last year.

Girls going for money? Guys going for looks? Always been that way......always will be.



I could care less if a girl is worth $23. It is ALL looks, personality, chemistry and family. I really believe that but I know in my heart that if a girls dad could really set me up, I would not object. :(
 
same here. i miss the days of arrainged marriages. they supposedly have a divorce rate no different than 'normal' marriages.

what'd you do last week test boy?
 
velvett said:
That said - (I may contradict myself now) romance and affairs of the heart that are memorable are so few and to prevent the possiblity because someone you meet doesn't meet up to your list of checks and standards may actually prove to be a loss.
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personal experience #1 = giving things a whirl no matter what: priceless.
Personal experience #2 = if you dont think your algorithim of qualifications will change over time : youre mistaken

personal experience #3 = its easy to look back and see things that have gone wrong : it wont change anything

personal experience #4 = money aint nothin, the best gift i ever gave anyone cost me $4.67, and about 12 hours of work.

Personal experience #5 = im only 21 and still (barely) an undergraduate : i have a lot to learn.


having said that, teach me ol' wise velvett :p
 
velvett said:


Why because I've been fucked over as many times as the men without having to babble endlessly about it while the men here bitch and moan day in and day out about women and what they have done to them?

You would have to know me and speak to me in person to see the joy I have tucked away in my heart.

You just have to be deserving to see it or rather feel it.
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It was just a random joke. I did not mean it like that.
 
nordstrom said:
same here. i miss the days of arrainged marriages. they supposedly have a divorce rate no different than 'normal' marriages.

what'd you do last week test boy?
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Went out four times, made new friends, pissed off a girl (a talent of mine), covered two large events as a photographer, had two hot girls express interest or say they liked me....lost one like a Bushbarian in the global arena. Would have done more but a storm hit yesterday.


What did you do last year Nord?
 
Testosterone boy said:
Went out four times, made new friends, pissed off a girl (a talent of mine), covered two large events as a photographer, had two hot girls express interest or say they liked me....lost one like a Bushbarian in the global arena. Would have done more but a storm hit yesterday.


What did you do last year Nord?
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last year? that was 2002 right? went to college.

shit i think you have had more excitement in the last week. ah well.
 
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