here's what im wondering....if a guy is currently using 40mg ox a day and throws 50mg winny a day in there he would surely gain 10-15lbs of solid mass ......correct? not to mention with the winny in there wouldn't he be more cut and harder than if he did the var alone? if this what i said so far is correct would this guy still need dnp later on pre contest to loose body fat or would that winny/var combo do the trick?

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