Var / Primo advice and help

[Kick-Ass Stack]

Hey Bros. I'm considering a cycle of anavar and primo. I've read some recommended dosages online but this will be the first time for me on these compounds. Before I get into my questions I'll give you a brief cycle history.

Cycle History

I have 2 cycles under my belt. I did a very small cycle starting off with 200mg of Cyp a week for about 9 weeks. I had some great gains from it even though I didn't really run much. It was my first time cycling and I wanted to run of the safe side.

My second cycle ended almost 12 weeks ago. I ran 500mg of Test-E and 400mg of EQ each week for 12 weeks. I had some amazing gains off it. I've managed to keep most of it.

Goals - Summer Cutter

I've been dieting and slimming down for summer. I'm 23 and 6'1. I'd say I'm at 15%. I had my BF checked a month ago and I was at 17% and I've lost weight since. I've been doing fasted AM cardio for the last month and things are going great. I'm losing about 1.5lbs a week.

I have an opportunity to run anavar and primo. The anavar comes in 50mg capsules and the primo is 100mg injectable. I've read that a typical cycle consists of 25-50mg of anavar daily as well as 100-200mg of primo/wk. What do you guys recommend? Do I need to shoot primo only once per week? How would I best maintain my blood levels. How long of a cycle should I run?

Another big reason I'm interested in this cycle is the effectiveness while on a lower calorie diet. I've had some more experienced bros really hold my hand with my diet and I'm ready to try a cutter after bulking for sometime.

I'd also like to throw a t3/clen stack in on this cycle but I'm hestitant to do this since I'm running new compouns. I've done 1 light t3 cycle ( 25 - 37.5 - 50 - 37.5 - 25 ) and have lightly used clen before.

Any advice you guys can give me would be great.

 

[bilter]

many here will tell you a higher dose but I am a minimalist by nature (cheaper , less sides). I recently finished a var / primo cycle. I ran 300mg prima PW with 60 mg var PD (run 50 since that is what you have). I also ran low dose test 200 mg PW.

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

many here will tell you a higher dose but I am a minimalist by nature (cheaper , less sides). I recently finished a var / primo cycle. I ran 300mg prima PW with 60 mg var PD (run 50 since that is what you have). I also ran low dose test 200 mg PW.

Thanks for the response. How long did you run this cycle? Is test recomended on top of this? I was under the impression that anavar doesn't conflict with natural test production.

Thanks again!

 

[drrman]

bro, if you are running primo as the base of your cycle you will need to run at LEAST 500mg, 300 isn't going to do crap, i promise you. and i would take a low dosage of test and an anti e during the cycle also

 

[Bruce]

primo i think needs to be 600-1000mg a week. just not a very strong steroid. eq is a better choice imo.

 

[factory46]

not to hi-jack your thread bro, but here's the cycle i just planned out. It's a bit expensive, but i'd rather do it this way because from what i've been told, its a "cutter and a keeper" cycle. Here's my 10 week plan:

800mg primo/wk
60mg Var/day
250-500mg Test Enan/wk (lol, its so cheap compared to the others I can't decide on the dose to take)

Tyler’s Liver Detox and PCT still working on. Anyone got advice for my pct???

 

[Roc86]

TBH bro I dont think youll need above 40mg of var. Ive even had bros run var onlys @ 20mg ed and still have substancial gains which were retained ridiculously easy.

 

[factory46]

TBH bro I dont think youll need above 40mg of var. Ive even had bros run var onlys @ 20mg ed and still have substancial gains which were retained ridiculously easy.

mass gains or just harden whats already there and add strength??

 

[black sheep]

800mg Primo and 40-60mg ED Var. You won't see much if you don't, but you'll love this for your goals if you run these dosages. I run 125mg of test a week to keep libido up.

Make sure your "source" is reputable, plenty of fake primo and var out there. You might be doing a EQ/Winny cycle and think you are on Primo/Var.

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

Thanks for the replies guys. I was out of reach yesterday afternoon.

I talked to my guy and he recommended a 8 weeker as follows:

Weeks 1-6
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
Primo 100mg EOD
Anavar 50mg (since that's what I can get) ED

Weeks 7-8
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
Primo 100mg EOD

He said I could consider extending to a 10 week cycle but he didn't recommend it due to the goals of my cycle and my experience level.

I've never run any of these compounds and I'm not sure if this stack is too much for me or not. I've bulked to a good size already, I'm mainly looking to harden up and keep on with my diet and cardio.

Thanks for all the help. I still have time to decide and read more. Anyone have a bunch of Var/Primo threads floating around?

 

[plifter48]

Thanks for the replies guys. I was out of reach yesterday afternoon.

I talked to my guy and he recommended a 8 weeker as follows:

Weeks 1-6
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
Primo 100mg EOD
Anavar 50mg (since that's what I can get) ED

Weeks 7-8
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
Primo 100mg EOD

He said I could consider extending to a 10 week cycle but he didn't recommend it due to the goals of my cycle and my experience level.

I've never run any of these compounds and I'm not sure if this stack is too much for me or not. I've bulked to a good size already, I'm mainly looking to harden up and keep on with my diet and cardio.

Thanks for all the help. I still have time to decide and read more. Anyone have a bunch of Var/Primo threads floating around?

Bro, this looks like a very good cutter. I do agree that normally you need at least 500mg of Primo to get good results, but with the tren, var and prop added, it should be good at a lower dose since they will work synergistically. Go for it and keep us posted about your results.

 

[jmt24]

i think 8 weeks is a little short for this cycle. i wouldnt run tren to the end of the cycle bc it could shut you down. i like your original cycle better with just primo and var. id run primo 10-12 weeks at leat 500mg/wk and var at 50mg ed for the first 6 weeks. if you wanted to add test, id add enan at 250mg/wk and run it alongside the primo.

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

Thanks for the advice guys. I'm not sure which route I'll go. I'll check funds. I still have to be able to afford to eat properly.

I think I could extend the cycle to 10 weeks I just wasn't sure if that's too much. I guess there's only one way to find out.

I've only heard one person recommend an anti-estrogen. I have a bottle of femara (letrozole) from the AG Guys. Any other recommendations and dosages required. I will of course have Nolvadex on hand for gyno issues.

Will I be ok with the standard clomid/novladex PCT? Will HCG be really important to run with these compounds?

Thanks!

 

[thelion2005]

I only know the anavar component of your cycle.
Here were my comments from a recent post:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486584

 

[happiest]

O.K. Lets get down to it:
What if you do not include Test in the var/primo cutter-combo?
Is there a way (short of sending to a lab) to test these for authenticity?
I know its hard to take people's words on good faith regarding your appetities and your health

 

[plifter48]

No, the only way to tell if its real is to have it lab tested. A lot of fakes out there for Primo.

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

O.K. Lets get down to it:
What if you do not include Test in the var/primo cutter-combo?
Is there a way (short of sending to a lab) to test these for authenticity?
I know its hard to take people's words on good faith regarding your appetities and your health

That is a great question. I have no clue whether or not there's a way to test it other than to assume it's real. The guy I'm getting my stuff from orders from Europe?. I'll find out the brand later today and post it ASAP. He's running the stuff preparing for a show so I tend to trust him. Then again I could get screwed.

Others?

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

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