VAR or Tbol

[jagerbombme]

just wondering which one you guys prefer for strength and lean gains? which one puts on more mass?

 

[JohnnyWest]

I've never tried tbol, but have used var many times.
From what I sea around here, var will put on more strength and tbol will put on more lbm with good strength gains. Any body who has tried tbol have any corrections? Bruce?

 

[jagerbombme]

bruce the man

 

[d_o_c_]

Tbol for better gains. Var to be safe and use for more than a month.

 

[instant.muscle]

var will give u more strength and shred u with lean mass, Tbol gives u more size, thats y in my next cycle i'm taking both

 

[KD1]

Tbol for better gains. Var to be safe and use for more than a month.

+1 To that suggestion.

 

[tbolking]

var all the way

 

[jagerbombme]

so the var will help cut fat down

 

[d_o_c_]

var will give u more strength and shred u with lean mass, Tbol gives u more size, thats y in my next cycle i'm taking both

More strength?

Hell no. I have used Var and Tbol both at 60mg and the tbol is without a doubt better for strength.

 

[d_o_c_]

The way I see it you can cut on just about any AAS as long as you do them right. I use Tbol all the time and it is always lean mass gains.

I just wish I could stay on for 2 months rather than 1 and see extended gains.

Why it seems to cut off I have no idea.
The body must adapt and change something.

 

[KD1]

var all the way

You should change your name to Varking.

 

[Reubsf]

Got bigger, stronger, and more vascular on Tbol. In terms of strength, Anavar wasn't that far behind, but was FAR superior in improving sports performance. Not saying that it'll be like that for you, but that's how things went down for me.

 

[Reubsf]

You should change your name to Varking.

 

[plifter48]

Studies on var show it has fat loss properties and both fat loss and muscle gain was sustainable after the cycle. I have taken both and at the right dosage gains was similiar, but var is my favorite because of the ability to keep the lean mass gains.

 

[instant.muscle]

The way I see it you can cut on just about any AAS as long as you do them right. I use Tbol all the time and it is always lean mass gains.

I just wish I could stay on for 2 months rather than 1 and see extended gains.

Why it seems to cut off I have no idea.
The body must adapt and change something.

Var mg for mg is better for strength, i know people who say when they take var at 75-100 mg the major strength gains rival Anadrol, var for strength lean mass, tbol for overall size IMO, bruce has taken both and i think he will back me up, he also said var is better for strength i believe

 

[Bruce]

Var mg for mg is better for strength, i know people who say when they take var at 75-100 mg the major strength gains rival Anadrol, var for strength lean mass, tbol for overall size IMO, bruce has taken both and i think he will back me up, he also said var is better for strength i believe

exactly right, the var strength gains at a high dose are going to be the best. however tbol is not far behind and its all how your body reacts. i'll tell you for sure in a 7 weeks because i am going to finally run var at 100mg ed and see if the strength gains are really as good as drol or dbol but keepable. if you want more mass and only want to run for 4 weeks choose tbol. if you are looking to put on only a bit of weight but add lean mass and strength and you wanna run longer than 4 weeks choose var. tbol is gonna give you more strength though if you are running them at the same doses that is a fact. var at 100mg compared to 50-60mg of tbol will give more strength to most people. either choice is a good one, the gains from tbol are lean mass, no bloat or sides, this is the case with both of these steroids. tbol imo is best for kicking off because it kicks in 3-5 days. var takes a week or so to feel so it is better suited for finishing a cycle. feel free to shoot a pm jager.

 

[Bruce]

i know what your goals are jager since we spoke. var is the way to go for sure. pm me when you get a chance.

 

[thewanderer690]

i know what your goals are jager since we spoke. var is the way to go for sure. pm me when you get a chance.

haha i like tren better than either of them for adding lbm plus its way cheapa

 

[boston789]

haha i like tren better than either of them for adding lbm plus its way cheapa

Haha...you also dont grow boobs from tbol or var...haha

 

[Bruce]

tbol is like oral tren with no side effects period. neither var or tbol will make ya go limp, kill libdio, give you night sweats and headaches, or crash at the end of the cycle. the thing that really doeasn't impress me with tren is that its rated as one of the worst steroids for keeping your gains

 

[instant.muscle]

supposedly u will keep ur gains from tbol and var so im starting 2 consider spending the extra money and running cycle like this from now on
1-4 Tbol 60mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
7-14 anavar 75mg
11-14 Tbol 60mg

if anavar and tbol are supposed 2 have more keepable gains then EQ, and most people pretty much keep their gains on EQ lol, so thats about 15-20 pounds of lean muscle right there, i'll try it and let u know could be the ultimate cycle :-D with some proviron as bruce would say :-D o shit bruce im lookin at ur cycle now and ur gonna run var? u bastard stealing my cycle hehe

 

[DieselGunz]

tbol

 

[Bruce]

yea got me enough var to run 100mg ed to finish, your fault instant.muscle, got me stuck on it. diesel holler one time

supposedly u will keep ur gains from tbol and var so im starting 2 consider spending the extra money and running cycle like this from now on
1-4 Tbol 60mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
7-14 anavar 75mg
11-14 Tbol 60mg

if anavar and tbol are supposed 2 have more keepable gains then EQ, and most people pretty much keep their gains on EQ lol, so thats about 15-20 pounds of lean muscle right there, i'll try it and let u know could be the ultimate cycle :-D with some proviron as bruce would say :-D o shit bruce im lookin at ur cycle now and ur gonna run var? u bastard stealing my cycle hehe

 

[instant.muscle]

it's ok, u convinced me 2 run tbol i convince u 2 run var, we both benefit