var following DBOL

[jmead]

so.. var isnt hepatoxic.. if it is its very minimal..

wondering.. if i just ran a 4 week 60mg ED of dbol..

would it be a bad idea to toss in 75mg anavar a day for 4 weeks to close this cycle out and harden up..

im taking milk thistle have been since day one.. also sesapure.. saw palmetto.. BCAA..

my pee is back to being almost clear again since coming off the dbol, probably drink 2 gallons of water a day..

info?

 

[solidspine]

Yes, that would be a bad idea.

Running d-bol only is a bad idea, you don’t build a cycle out of d-bol

 

[jmead]

Yes, that would be a bad idea.

Running d-bol only is a bad idea, you don’t build a cycle out of d-bol

spine, im 15 weeks into a test/eq/npp cycle, i know bro..

i tossed dbol in late in the cycle.. was wondering if closing it out with var was a bad idea..

 

[jmead]

any info on following 4 weeks of dbol with 1 week rest.. with 75mg var ED for 4-5 weeks..

so itd look like this

1-now 500mg test e
1-now 600mg eq
1-1week ago 60mg dbol ED

now im wanting to toss some var in and alter my diet a little a shed a few lbs before i pct it up

 

[letsrun4it]

just dont exceed 8 weeks with orals period...

 

[jmead]

just dont exceed 8 weeks with orals period...

so you dont think 4 weeks dbol 60mg ED one week break and 4 weeks anavar 75mg ED is too much?

 

[Mrpumped]

spine, im 15 weeks into a test/eq/npp cycle, i know bro..

i tossed dbol in late in the cycle.. was wondering if closing it out with var was a bad idea..

Until you clarified it I thought you were on a d-bol only cycle too!! No, running the Var at the last 4 weeks is not a bad idea. You didn't clarify how long this cycle is for either. It sounds like 8 weeks. That's not long enough for eq. 12 -15 weeks is best for eq.

 

[jmead]

Until you clarified it I thought you were on a d-bol only cycle too!! No, running the Var at the last 4 weeks is not a bad idea. You didn't clarify how long this cycle is for either. It sounds like 8 weeks. That's not long enough for eq. 12 -15 weeks is best for eq.

its in that quote.. "im on week 15 of test/npp/eq"..

im simply asking if its ok to run var after running dbol for 4 weeks.. as far as liver values goes

 

[X Man]

u would really need blood work tests to see... there was a vet on here who posted pis of his calves after 36 week of winny and eq... he said his liver values were fine.... his calves were disgustingly vascualar.

 

[jmead]

u would really need blood work tests to see... there was a vet on here who posted pis of his calves after 36 week of winny and eq... he said his liver values were fine.... his calves were disgustingly vascualar.

last time i got blood work i had liver value issues and my doctor basically told me i was on roids and said he doesnt approve.. i denied.. and stopped gettin blood work done while ON anything even prohoromones he flips.. fuckin douche..

wouldnt urine color be a good judgement if your liver values are elevated.. darker the pee.. the worse.. or no?

 

[MR. BMJ]

Get a new MD. Your enzymes were probably slightly raised and he freaked because he noticed that you had the "juicer/steroid" build/look.

Run the Anavar to finish out the cycle. Then do your PCT. Since you are cycling AAS, you will not be on non-stop, thus the liver, if any elevated enzymes were to occur, would have no problem returning to normal with a little off time from orals. You will be fine. Liver problems do not occur over a tiny few months worth of a cycle. It takes some time for damage to occur. That is if you are genetically prone to it as well.

Take some tyler's Liver Detox and some ALA.

Keep water intake high.

BMJ

 

[jmead]

Get a new MD. Your enzymes were probably slightly raised and he freaked because he noticed that you had the "juicer/steroid" build/look.

Run the Anavar to finish out the cycle. Then do your PCT. Since you are cycling AAS, you will not be on non-stop, thus the liver, if any elevated enzymes were to occur, would have no problem returning to normal with a little off time from orals. You will be fine. Liver problems do not occur over a tiny few months worth of a cycle. It takes some time for damage to occur. That is if you are genetically prone to it as well.

Take some tyler's Liver Detox and some ALA.

Keep water intake high.

BMJ

so right now im back to just 500test e/600 eq.. i have 2500mg of var, you think 100mg ED for 25 days or 75mg for 33 days? or should i ramp up?.. open to suggestions

 

[solidspine]

If you are going to run the orals, only run one, not both or one after the other too much,

I would run the d-bol, not the anavar.

 

[jmead]

If you are going to run the orals, only run one, not both or one after the other too much,

I would run the d-bol, not the anavar.

spine..

lol i dont know if your reading all the threads..

ive already taken the dbol

i am ON week 15 of test/eq/npp dbol kickstart and i threw it in wk 10-13

now im wanting to close the cycle out with some var..

 

[MR. BMJ]

Jmead, you need to post the link to your past thread here so that others may understand where you are coming from. They are all giving great advice, but I do not think they remember where you are coming from....thus the confusion for some.

I've yet to run Oxandrolone though, so I cannot state the most effective dose. Obviously, the highest dose will yield the most gains, but to end a cycle, i'm not sure you need that. I cannot really comment in that regard though. I'll be using Ox for the first coming soon @ 100mg/d....so until then, i'm just going by user feedback and testimonials. I'm taking it mainly so I can post firsthand experience from using it. Plus it is fitting my needs at that time of use...post-cycle-surgery, etc.

It will probably just come down to how much longer you want to stay on....3.5 weeks vs. 4.75 weeks? Both are fine, but it is up to you. Do you have anything coming up that you can plan forth to in the next month or so? If so, then the longer might be better.

This is what I would do though....

I'd run the 33 days @ 75mg/d.

The second week of this, stop the Eq. Eq will have a longer half-life, so you will want it out before starting your PCT.....this will not be cookie cutter though, so we are guestimating with most of this timing.

Run the Test the entire 4 weeks of the Ox. The Ox will have a few days into the last enanthate injection obviously.

so....

i'll use these weeks as an example....they will be off some so adjust accordingly.

You stated being on week 15 right now. So I am assuming that Sun/Mon will start week 16.

You could try this:

Test @ 500mg/wk...weeks 16, 17, 18, 19.
Eq @ 600mg/wk......weeks 16, 17.
Ox @ 75mg/d..........weeks 16, 17, 18, 19, 5 days of 20.

PCT:

Hcg @ 500iu......weeks 20, 21, 22.

Clomid @ 50mg/d...weeks 23, 24, 25, 26, and get some for an addition 2-3 weeks if needed.

AIFM: weeks 20-26....plus additional weeks past Clomid if needed.

Nolva: optional...probably not needed, but 20mg/d during HCG is where i'd put it if you add it in.

You are very young and should recover easily. HCG is for nut-aesthetics only.

BMJ

 

[jmead]

thanks bro, always very informative.. thanks for laying it out, and basically thats what i was thinkin of doing in the first place except you dropped the eq out one week before i was thinking, which is probably a good idea.. you just explained it better


im gonna run it at 75mg, see how it works out, i want to include it in my next cycle so i figured id give it a try while im not on that many compounds to see how i respond.. i believe my gains from the test/eq have stalled now, havent gained any weight the past 4-5 days.. no matter what i eat.. so its time to come off.. been a fun run.. thanks for all the info

 

[bigthrower]

YOU WILL BE FINE

thanks bro, always very informative.. thanks for laying it out, and basically thats what i was thinkin of doing in the first place except you dropped the eq out one week before i was thinking, which is probably a good idea.. you just explained it better


im gonna run it at 75mg, see how it works out, i want to include it in my next cycle so i figured id give it a try while im not on that many compounds to see how i respond.. i believe my gains from the test/eq have stalled now, havent gained any weight the past 4-5 days.. no matter what i eat.. so its time to come off.. been a fun run.. thanks for all the info