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xtreme165

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Just wondering how much everyone has taken and for how long for good results. I have read 30-50mg's per day for 6 weeks, but I want to get everyones personall exp. Also what does everyone think of USP24 oxandrolone? I will have to cap myself. Thanks!
 
I paid the same price

I got 5 grams of the same thing USP24 98% pure and paid $550 for 5 grams. I plan on running 70mg ED for 10 weeks. I put my cycle into better detail in the " I am mixing my OX powder" thread.
 
how does USP24 anavar compare with others such as the spanish generic, papervar, and btg? i wanna get some ox for the summer and the spanish looks like it's not an option anymore so i'm probably gonna try for the papervar, but this is less expensive, even though i'd have to cap it myself.
 
Young Guns, it's the same powder used in most anavar. The difference between BTG and others is that the pills make the powder more bioavailable, they basically increase absorption of the powder. That's why BTG is always going to be the best.

If you want to increase absorption take your anavar with grapefruit juice.

As far as capping them, well that's a pain in the ass. But it's worth it, after all, it's OXA :p

The gram is TINY, I'm going to try and do this. I bought a bottle of Taurine at GNC 150 1gram capsules, I'm going to open and dump 99 pills exactly, Then I'll add the 1gram of anavar mix it vERY well and use the cap-m-quik to cap them.

You guys are wipping this guy clean! I went to order 10grams, and he said no, there's a limit on the # of grams you can order at once. :(
 
how come nobody is suspending it in liquid? it seems to me that would be the best way to ensure accurate dosing everytime. when dealing with such small amounts(10mg) you really need to be sure to have a completely homogenous mix, which i have heard is not as easy as simply shaking the chemical with the cut.
 
b22md: what solution should someone suspend it in? and for 2 grams, how much solvent do you think is needed? and is there one that i could use and just drink - seems like a pain in the ass to inject them into gelcaps but i can if needed? i know you already said proylene glycol tastes terrible.
 
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young guns said:

b22md: what solution should someone suspend it in? and for 2 grams, how much solvent do you think is needed? and is there one that i could use and just drink - seems like a pain in the ass to inject them into gelcaps but i can if needed? i know you already said proylene glycol tastes terrible.
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i have been trying to find an answer to that for quite some time. i believe an old post by Fonz stated that water was no good, due to bacteria i think. everclear seems to be one of the most popular choices, but someone stated that this solution mat not last more than 3-4 days, so you would have to make small batches every few days. i'm no chemist, so i dont know what to think. i was wondering if glycerol was a possibility? anybody with info please help us out.
 
There is a reason why his Var is so cheap. You need to cap them, trust when i tell you that I've thought of every way to put it in liquid form but it simply is to complicated. It would be stable for 3-4 days. Any trace of water in te solutin and i destroys the OX,
 
I guess this is gonna be harder than I thought. Andy, when you said you were gonna open 99 taurine caps, do you mean 1MG caps or 1 gram. If you open 99 the ratio is 99g's of taurine to 1g of var. Maybe my brain isn't functioning today but I'm lost. How much var are you expecting to be in one cap?
 
I was gonna ask the same thing. I think if he spills 99 caps, adds 1 gram of var, and caps 100, he'll have 10 mg caps....Is this right BigAndy?
 
Man the only thing I can think of is get a nice scale that has like a .01 margin of error and measure each cap out. Andy lost me on his theory. If it's lipid soluble, I'm wondering if you can suspend it in some regular flax oil. But the problem with that is you can't exactly shoot the substance into a gel cap so what are ya gonna do, suspend the stuff each time you have to take it? No way. 5mg is pretty damn small to measure on a scale but if it's what I have to do, I'll do it
 
Okay guys;

Here's what I'm doing. The beauty about this method is that it does not require a scale or any knowlegde of the density of the powders(fillers and var)

It is tedious however.

You'll need a bottle of taurine by Ultimate Nutrition. It's a 150g bottle with 150 caps of 1g of taurine in each capsule.

Take 100 caps. Empty every cap(that's gonna take forever but it's var baby:p ) dumping the powder in a metallic/glass container.

Only dump 99g(99 caps) of taurine in the container, Throw away the one gram of taurine.

So far you have 100 empty caps and 99g of taurine in your container. Add 1gram of anavar and mix for a good period of time, mix as much as you can.

Fill your empty capsules using the cap-m-quik device

The anavar is only 1 gram and it represents 1% of the mixture so you can bet that it's a homogeneous mixture

Each cap is 10mg.

To make 20mg caps, do the same but use only 98 grams of taurine and 2grams of anavar.
 
Cool thanks bro. The only reason I'm so worried about having the dosage correct is b/c these are for my girl, not me. So I want to 5mg caps to start with and we'll she how she responds. If no sides we'll probably up to 10mg but want to start at 5mg.
 
i guess i just dont see how you can be sure it'll be even distrubuted in the taurine. granted, it should be fairly close. this is the best idea i've heard though, so i may end up doing the same thing.
 
BigAndy,
How are you measuring out your VAR are you going to fill up one of the taurine cap's since there 1gram? Geez my house will look like a chemistry lab, how am I going to explain this to the wife. lol. I know there fat burners! :ryanh:
 
Xtreme165, you don't need to measure anything. The anavar comes in a baggy, it's already measured, all you need to do is dump it in and mix. They are sold in 1000mg baggies.
 
so having a real reliable source is a must cause it'd be easy to for someone to just bag something up and screw people over.
 
Could you mix the powder with an injectable like test or even fina? wouldnt injecting it make it more bioavailable also? Does anyone know how many ml's i gram of var will displace?
 
I can and will get the stuff tested. I work in a hosp. and have connections to the lab where I can get everything checked out as I've done for my buddy before but I have confidance in the person that hooked me up good and knowledgable guy!
 
xtreme165 said:
I can and will get the stuff tested. I work in a hosp. and have connections to the lab where I can get everything checked out as I've done for my buddy before but I have confidance in the person that hooked me up good and knowledgable guy!
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I look forward to the lab results.
 
is it only sold in 1g bags?

BigAndy69, and what will your cycle be?

if it's only sold in 1 g bags i'd have to get 2 g, which would be 40mg a day for 50 days. i only planned on running 6 weeks, and hadnt figured the dosage out yet.

i don't know if i need 40mg ed for 7 weeks for my first time.
 
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young guns said:
is it only sold in 1g bags?

how much are you gettin BigAndy69, and what will your cycle be?

if it's only sold in 1 g bags i'd have to get 2 g, which would be 40mg a day for 50 days. i only planned on running 6 weeks, and hadnt figured the dosage out yet.

i don't know if i need 40mg ed for 7 weeks for my first time.
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I've got 5grams sitting at home here.

I'm doing an Anavar only cycle, 40mg ED for 6-8 weeks, then a couple of months later, Anavar/EQ, 10 weeks of Eq at 300-400mg a week, 5 weeks of Anavar at 30-40mg ED, and then w11-w12 anavar again at 20-30mg until I hit the clomid.

1gram is 1000mg btw, so 2grams would net you 50 40mg servings. That's a great first cycle, take it with grapefruit juice.
 
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You must have a lot of time to kill..To get a homogeneous mixture you would need to be there for hours...they don't sell $10,000 mixtures for nothing, and I dount you have an accurate 99g of taurine...and the density of the powders are different although it is such a small amount of ox that this probably wouldn't matter...

Just put it ethanol for christ's sake!

And selling fake powder would be MORE difficult than selling say a fake unmarked pill! Cause you would have to find something with the same color, texture, solubility, and melting point cause these are all very easy tests to do at home. Of corse most wouldn't think of something so easy...
 
dosage problems

why not just dissolve it in propylene glycol ala reforvit?. is it less stable than the dbol molecule?.

or testosterone since that seems to do ok in suspension.

anyone?. Bueller?.
 
young guns said:
alright, 7 weeks at 40mg/ed it is then.

spentagn, let me know if you think any of mine need deleted and i'll clear them.
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any post requesting a source is against the rules. If this pertains to you, it'd be better for you to delete it than a mod doing so. They're a lot less likely to help people who don't follow the rules.
 
Very simply place your powder into PG. 7.5 grams, in 500ml of PG = 15mg per ml. You will never get the dosing right trying to cap it. It is like putting a needle in a haystack.
 
Verbal Gorilla: checking color, texture, and solubility is obvioulsy a smart thing to do. but for someone who's never seen it, they have to go off of someones description (pictures would be nice, i can only ever find pics of spa and btg). that makes it more of a judgement call. it make look "real" but may not be.

as far as the melting point, i'm sure most people don't keep a mel-temp or something like that at home to get an accurate reading (by the way i'd like to hear how you test the melting point at home) , and what good will that do after you've already thrown a couple hundred away. it may keep you from taking worhtless shit, but the damage to your wallet is already done. so that's why i said it's important to have a reliable source.
 
no problem with stability in proylene glycol or ethanol?
i honestly didn't know and i thought that was the issue with having to cap them.
 
Delinquent said:
Hell with it then, I'm just gonna get a scale, measure out 5mg and then pour it in the caps.
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a good analytical scale will probably cost more than the ox. i have a 50gm scale with .01 (10mg) accuracy. that cost about $250, but you can probably find one cheaper than that online.

a reliable liquid suspension needs to be found. if you are measuring 5mg each time you make a cap, you may lose your mind. it is an INCREDIBLY time consuming task. hell, the first time i used my cap-m-quik it took me almost an hour to make 100
500mg ALA caps and that was pure with no cut, simply dumping it out and spreading it into the caps. i'm gettting better though :)
 
Scales are fuckin expensive!!! To do it right you'de need a scale accurate to 0.001 There's to much room for error with a 0.01 scale when you're talking such small dosages.
 
that's what I keep telling my girl but she won't listen. The ox is for her so we need to be especially careful with the dose
 
Anybody else with good ideas about how to measure the powder accurately?

It seems to be the main difficulty,accurate scales are pretty expensive.
 
anyone know how stable it is in solution - like if mixing with proylene glycol, would it be ok to mix it all up at once, or wo8uld it have to be done a little at a time?
 
if its like reforvit then it should be able to just sit there for a few years at the very least without degrading.

anyone?.
 
I'm not too sure about the validity of this statement: I emailed brock strasser a few months ago and he told me that you could put it in pure grain ethanol. You can pick that up easily...

Brock has been wrong before so I don't know if he's right, I won't take that chance..I'll just cap them.
 
i put a post on the supps board to see if pa, par, or llewellyn would respond.
par said that everclear would be ideal for putting ox in, but didn't comment on the stability. so how long would it last for? i know i couldn't mix a whole cycles worth at once, but maybe a week's worth at a time?
 
Re: ha..found it.

johnboy said:
the only usp24 anavar on google.com but where do they ship from ?
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Two countries are making var powder available, Italy and China. I think the chinese is more like ACS grade anavar.
 
Does anyone know where else to get propylene glycol other than A? He's now has a new minimum of $100 and it only costs $3 for what I need.
 
I keep reading about PG and it seems as is it's pretty toxic if ingested. Is this stuff ok? I Also read that Rev-B has it in it so it must not be that bad. Is there anything to worry about?
 
overrated. i've seen the same stuff. sounds like the MSG and nutrasweet people. sure, it may be bad for you but i hardly think we're guzzling prop glycol here. and its used as a food additive along with glycerine to give those dry protein bars the proper mouth feel. and as an additive in cookies, icecream etc.

but let us know if your winkie falls off ;).
 
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Delinquent.....so you're goin with PG instead of ethanol....did you ever hear more on the stability issues?
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I pm'ed cockdezl and he said that it would dissolve in the PG and be stable for a long time.
 
Delinquent said:


I pm'ed cockdezl and he said that it would dissolve in the PG and be stable for a long time.
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did he tell you what mg/ml concentrations were possible?


keep us posted on your results
 
He didn't know offhand what the concentration limits were. It seems no one rents scales down here that have a .001 accuracy so the weighing option is out of the question. Does anyone know if and/or what the mg/ml limitation would be??? Also anyone that has experience with dissolving or suspending powders, how exact will the mixture be????
 
Delinquent said:
He didn't know offhand what the concentration limits were. It seems no one rents scales down here that have a .001 accuracy so the weighing option is out of the question. Does anyone know if and/or what the mg/ml limitation would be??? Also anyone that has experience with dissolving or suspending powders, how exact will the mixture be????
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I would imagine it's somewhere around 10mg/ml

It will not be a homogenous mixture, some powder will set at the bottom(like any vial of injectable winny) so you need to shake vigorously before use.
 
thanks bro. I was just too leary about trying to taurine mixture since it's my girl we're dealing with. I want make it 5mg/ml for her so the concentration should be ok then.
 
Delinquent said:
thanks bro. I was just too leary about trying to taurine mixture since it's my girl we're dealing with. I want make it 5mg/ml for her so the concentration should be ok then.
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Btw, did you get the powder yet or are you on the waiting list?

I'm going to turn mine into injectable using animal's kit: 100mg/ml :)
 
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