USP 24 VAR Powder

[dr0832]

Who has used this stuff? Is this basically the raw form of most of the UG var?

 

[TraxZBT]

if its the same stuff from the man himself... then yes its good to go. Strength and hardness by end of week 1. Six pack by end of week 3 such a great drug.

 

[_Yossarian_]

my guess would be most UG var is USP23...

 

[Paulo]

I reckon its about 98.5 or higher purity. So yeah, can't see where you'd go wrong.

 

[TxLonghorn]

my guess would be most UG var is USP23...

Why do you say that? What's the difference between usp23, 24, and 25 oxandrolone? Nothing, because nothing has changed for oxandrolone from 23 to 25.

 

[dr0832]

Alright now I just gotta figure how to get powder into caps. I think its gonna take a while, but I iwll problably just measure amount with scale and then put in caps one by one lol, but at least it will be fairly accurate. I don't have amps, or pins or any of that so making a solution isn't gonna happen.

 

[supreme]

look on the web for the "Capsule Machine" much better & easier than the" Cap 'em Quick" loader

S

 

[_Yossarian_]

Why do you say that? What's the difference between usp23, 24, and 25 oxandrolone? Nothing, because nothing has changed for oxandrolone from 23 to 25.

Not sure what you mean bro, you're saying the standard for USP23 is identical to that of USP25?

 

[kbrkbr]

Trust me, it's not worth the time it takes to get an equal mix and cap them. Suspend it in everclear or 151 and use an eye dropper to measure.

 

[dr0832]

well then I have to carry around a container in order to take doses and i can't do that because of my job. I only have about 84 caps to make which will probably take a a few hours and be a major pain in the ass but it will be worth it I am sure, especially since this stuff is 10 times less then caps.

 

[Guvna]

who is the man? (not looking for a source, but a hint as to who is being refered to)

like.... tri****** or something like that (i made that up BTW)

 

[xsnrg]

Not sure what you mean bro, you're saying the standard for USP23 is identical to that of USP25?

The standard for var in usp 23 would be identical to usp 25 and higher numbers of usp.The standards are upgraded for new products most of the time,not for something already rated.

 

[buckwheat1]

Why do you say that? What's the difference between usp23, 24, and 25 oxandrolone? Nothing, because nothing has changed for oxandrolone from 23 to 25.

Some have speculationed that USP23 is a lower grade than say USP24 or USP25. I found this thread at steriodology. It indicates it has nothing really to do with grade of the chemical. Can confirm if this info is correct or not but here it is:

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The number following the USP is the edition. The current edition is USP26/NF21. On January 1 2004 the newest edition USP27/NF22 becomes current. USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia , NF stands for National Formulary. Most pharmaceutical actives (the active ingredients) have a monograph (monograph = list of tests and requirements the substance must have to be sold in medicines under FDA jurisdiction), most pharmaceutical excipients (the other stuff in pharmaceuticals such as preservatives, fillers, buffers, thickeners etc.) have a monograph contained in the NF. Back in the olden days a new Pharmacopeia only came out once every few years, these days things are changing very fast and in an effort to keep things up to date a new edition comes out every year, and several updates come out in between, and between those other smaller updates are included in the PF (Pharm Forum). Basically things change almost daily, therefore most pharmaceutical companies have entire departments whose sole purpose is to make sure thier lab complies with all the constantly changing requirements. As far as what that means to you, if you see a pharmaceutical or chemical that says USP23 versus one that says USP26, it simply means that the USP23 chemical was tested using an older set of specifications. It does not mean that the chemical is inferior in quality. Since most Monographs don't change from edition to edition, if it was Ok to be called USP 25 its would most likely pass all the tests for USP 26 or vice versa. It may however mean a chemical has been sitting on a shelf for a while. Also it is important to note that many countries other than the USA sometimes use the USP, and therefore might use an older edition. Another factor that sometimes comes into play is the cost of testing the chemical, it might be more expensive than the value of the chemical itself to perform the tests again to obtain the current rating. Hope this helped. After writing this I have decided to write a post about Pharmacopeias For Dummies to put all questions to bed once and for all.

 

[juve]

I always though USP# referred to the subsequent/current year after USP standard was adopted: so USP24 Oxandrolone is a year older than USP25 Oxandrolone and was entered in USPO database on its 24th initiation or 24th issue of USP; each year they resubmit/extract existing drugs from USP or add new ones.

 

[xsnrg]

The USP is used to test the quality of Pharmaceutical Actives, Excipients andPreparations to be sure they are of high enough quality to be sold to the public.
The USP contains: compendia made up of specific monographs for thousands of actives, excipients and preparations. It contains sections on general tests of physical,chemical, and biological properties. The monographs make reference to which general tests and methods are used to test each chemical, as well any changes to be made to the general tests to suit each individual chemical. The monograph also lists the specifications for each test for a given chemical, or in other words the range of values for a given test for a given chemical that are considered to be “passing”. The USP also has a section on making and standardizing all reagent solutions required to perform any of the tests listed within. Finally the USP has a number of reference tables contained in appendices that are necessary to perform some of the calculations associate with the tests contained within.
This isn’t like an octane number when you go to the gas station. Although the USP is updated constantly, the specifications for most chemicals change only very rarely. Most changes involve updating methods to include the more automated equipment that is becoming more common in most labs. Also most updates include many new monographs for medicines that did not exist at the time of publication of previous editions. Because of the nature of updates it is very likely that a chemical that received a USP24 rating is entirely good enough to receive a USP25 or USP26 rating, but just has not been retested. Furthermore because of the pass/fail nature of USP testing it is entirely possible that a chemical with a USP25 rating is more pure than one with a USP26 rating,assuming the chemical receiving a USP26 rating barely passed and the chemical receiving a USP25 rating passed with flying colors

 

[jcam222]

This is a very informative thread. The explanations above of usp ratings would make a good sticky and save a lot of future questions I think. either way good info

 

[juve]

excellent - good to be finally clued in

 

[TxLonghorn]

excellent - good to be finally clued in

Knowledge is a wonderful thing, lol.

And for the guy that says he can't do liquid because he can't carry it around on his job, take it before/after work. I'm telling you, the liquid is 100x easier and will be dosed more accurately. If you don't like using a syringe to dose, get a vial with a dropper and mark the dropper for volume.

 

[dr0832]

I don't really want anything to do with vials and any of this other shit, cause i never will inject anything. I also live with nosy people who sometimes open my packages so I can't order that sort of shit. Also I work all day so the morning dose would be fine but I would have no way to take the dose at 2-3pm. Caps will just be a lot easier even though they will be a pain in the ass to fill.

 

[basskiller]

Why do you say that? What's the difference between usp23, 24, and 25 oxandrolone? Nothing, because nothing has changed for oxandrolone from 23 to 25.

Wouldn't that be the purity? the higher the number/ the closer to pure you have?? USP23 being on the lines of research grade powders. and 27 be more clean and human grade.. Or has my chemist been lieing to me about having to contend with extra filtering with some Chinese usp23 powders????

Also. the more pure it is, the easier it is to keep in solution. That was the problem most experianced with trying to suspend winny.. low grade powders

BTW..Long time Tx...

 

[basskiller]

didn't see this.. nice info

The USP is used to test the quality of Pharmaceutical Actives, Excipients andPreparations to be sure they are of high enough quality to be sold to the public.
The USP contains: compendia made up of specific monographs for thousands of actives, excipients and preparations. It contains sections on general tests of physical,chemical, and biological properties. The monographs make reference to which general tests and methods are used to test each chemical, as well any changes to be made to the general tests to suit each individual chemical. The monograph also lists the specifications for each test for a given chemical, or in other words the range of values for a given test for a given chemical that are considered to be “passing”. The USP also has a section on making and standardizing all reagent solutions required to perform any of the tests listed within. Finally the USP has a number of reference tables contained in appendices that are necessary to perform some of the calculations associate with the tests contained within.
This isn’t like an octane number when you go to the gas station. Although the USP is updated constantly, the specifications for most chemicals change only very rarely. Most changes involve updating methods to include the more automated equipment that is becoming more common in most labs. Also most updates include many new monographs for medicines that did not exist at the time of publication of previous editions. Because of the nature of updates it is very likely that a chemical that received a USP24 rating is entirely good enough to receive a USP25 or USP26 rating, but just has not been retested. Furthermore because of the pass/fail nature of USP testing it is entirely possible that a chemical with a USP25 rating is more pure than one with a USP26 rating,assuming the chemical receiving a USP26 rating barely passed and the chemical receiving a USP25 rating passed with flying colors