US troops defend our country......

[Rex]

I won't deny that some of the dumbest people I've come across have enlisted, but they're not the ones working with high priority jobs.

I have a GT score of 119 that I got on my ASVAB. 110 is needed for any job that is with the exception of some nuclear fields. My dumb ass picked a construction field thinking I'd get a job like the Seabees have in the Navy. My swim qual came back to haunt me and cost me the only job I wanted in the 1300 field. The recruiter didn't lie per se, but I was led to believe something else. My bust.

Had I known what I do now I would've done a few things differently in going into the military. Still would've joined regardless. Now that I have my health getting back in order I will attempt to get my MOS changed. MSG duty or counter intell are my prospects.

Matt no offense, but officers are bred to believe that all enlisted are relativley worthless except for being bullet sponges. Not all think like that; however, a large portion do.

 

[2Thick]

The Army is not the place of intellectuals, nor should it be.

Then what were you doing there?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Matt no offense, but officers are bred to believe that all enlisted are relativley worthless except for being bullet sponges. Not all think like that; however, a large portion do.

It's like anything else - stereotypes are what they are, and they are often, but not always, true.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Then what were you doing there?

When I was 21 I wasn't ready to do the corporate thing. There was some stuff I wanted to get out of my system.

I actually wanted to do Special Forces, and ranger regiment wasa stop on the way to that, but after getting hutr it didn;t work out.

Among the officers you will find some very smart, extremely well-educated people. Academy educations are superior to erverything except maybe the elite Ivy's (Harvard, Yale, Princeton) A lot of times academy grads are socially undeedeveloped, but that is another issue. I'm not an academy grad but enjoyed their company.

I don't want this to become an officer / enlisted thing....those who have been there will likely agree that many enlisted fit my above description. If you want further proof, drive through Columbus GA or Fayetteville NC, (or any town with a large Army base) and check out the military towns - cheesy jewelry stores, pawn shops, tacky used car dealerships, and the shittiest strip clubs you'll ever see...virtually all of the retail is geared to rip off young and ignorant/inexperienced enlisted troops.

It's self perpetutating - I wish the military did something to develop these kids a little more intellectually/personally. I know that enlisted infantry is not the place of the thinkers, nor should it be - the infantry's mission is to close with the enemy and blow his fucking head off - but at the same time, if I see another 19 year old in a purple Ford Escort with axle extenders and ground effects, I am going to go fucking crazy.

Sorry having flashbacks.

 

[Rex]

In my experience the level of stupidity in the military is equal to the level I have found in the private sector. Well, except maybe the Marines.......j/k.

lol. We go in first, get the worst living conditions, get treated like shit on a daily basis, and think a 96 [4 day vacation for the civilians] is the greatest. Yeah you can say we're stupid.

Outside of military bases are some of the shittiest towns you will come across. Main reason I want to go to Cali next, besides them going to Iraq next year, is that it's nicer than Camp Lejuene, NC.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Typically, the best and most competent do not join the military. The enlisted ranks are composed largely of poor poeple, southerners, and minorities.

I was referring to the leadership.


BTW.........I rarely take EF seriously, this is where I relax, blow off steam, stir pots, amuse myself, and convince myself that my future is better than it might be.

I think we all live in a bubble reality of our own manufacture but thats another subject.

 

[75th]

lol. We go in first

After the Rangers of course.

 

[Rex]

After the Rangers of course.

Not too start anything, but the Marines are an expeditionary unit so we go in first. In Somalia the Marines went in first secured the area, then the Army occupies. More joint task force operations take place now, but the mission is primarily the same.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Not too start anything, but the Marines are an expeditionary unit so we go in first. In Somalia the Marines went in first secured the area, then the Army occupies. More joint task force operations take place now, but the mission is primarily the same.

Somalia was the worst military operation ever.

12 infantry companies, 12 general officers, an indifferent administration that was more worried about the perceptions of the way we were trying to treat the world's poorest country AS WE HELPED THEM than about soldiers getting dragged through the streets.

Anyway....Marines are trained to storm the beach. rangers to seize airfields, although as those missions become less relevant, other methods of using these reources are beign developed.

Rangers are doing a lot of urban combat (MOUT? do they still call it that?) and I don't even know what is happening with marines.


Rangers lead the way and Marines are dumbass jarheads. LOL!!

 

[75th]

Not too start anything, but the Marines are an expeditionary unit so we go in first. In Somalia the Marines went in first secured the area, then the Army occupies. More joint task force operations take place now, but the mission is primarily the same.

I know, I wasnt trying to start anything either. I honestly dont know why there is "competition" if you will between the branches of service. We are all there to accomplish the same goal.