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Update on Blood TEST-- Need help Please--Karma

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cdownie927

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I got my blood work back today it read a low 165 so I must be an average of 200 which is low. Idont know what to do!!! the doctor said he would send it back to my euroligist for treatment since there is no point of 2 docs treating it. I then asked him what kind of treatment would we be talking about he mentioned something like a gel andro gel with testosterone in it. I asked how long I would have to take it, and he said for the long haul or another works forever!!
So that being said I am suppose to start my cycle this week so I mise well start since eventually I will be going on test. I was thinking on not going to see the other doc since I still plan on cycleing and Im only 23 and do not want to deal with putting gel on for the rest of my life just, so wait until I want to have kids or something.

What do you guys think, I need help on what to do or what would you do if you were me

My original thread was
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=284832
 
Dude, thats a little low for 23. I'm 40 years old and on HRT's for the rest of my life, last time I had mine checked it was 36, you don't want to end up like me, I stayed on way to long with out proper cycling.
 
The gel would work basically as HRT. I think I would work on getting production up before starting ANY cycle. And before any HRT. Maybe re-start the clomid therapy?
 
cdownie927 said:
I got my blood work back today it read a low 165 so I must be an average of 200 which is low. Idont know what to do!!! the doctor said he would send it back to my euroligist for treatment since there is no point of 2 docs treating it. I then asked him what kind of treatment would we be talking about he mentioned something like a gel andro gel with testosterone in it. I asked how long I would have to take it, and he said for the long haul or another works forever!!
So that being said I am suppose to start my cycle this week so I mise well start since eventually I will be going on test. I was thinking on not going to see the other doc since I still plan on cycleing and Im only 23 and do not want to deal with putting gel on for the rest of my life just, so wait until I want to have kids or something.

What do you guys think, I need help on what to do or what would you do if you were me

My original thread was
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=284832
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did you try clomid/HCG treatment?
 
i just read the other thread, did u have a serious crash after your last cycle? Get some more info from some vets but i'd say maybe try some more clomid/hcg... you said you did clomid 25mg a day which seemed to help a bit.. but isnt that dosage kind of low? I usually see people talking about taking 100mg for like the first 3 days then 50mg for like another 10 or so. My first cycle i did 50mg ed for 14 days, and it seemed to work good for me.
 
I always cycle on and off time on=time off I did clomid hcg post cycle I dont understand however I may of had that low of test before juicing i dont know because I didnt get checked. Thats why im wondering what to do!!
 
As I have found out from personal experience time on does not equal time off. You were most likely supressed when you started your last cycle from the previous deca cycle and now you are seriously fuckin supressed. I know some bro's that have required a whole year to fully recuperate. This is what you should do: WAIT!
 
Bro, I think faller has a good sugestion try some more clomid and hcg before you start another cycle @ your age you should not need HRT. You may want to go to an endo doc and get checked out.
 
Mr. Black said:
....a whole year if you must!
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I agree - do not go back on test / or go on HRT, give your body as much time as it needs to recover. Continue taking natural test boosting supplements / herbs (trib, maca, zinc etc etc). Obviously keep up your lifting, throw in some cardio if you don't already, get regular good nights sleep - keep your body active and it should balance itself back out in time. Keep the faith mate and go for regular blood tests to see how things are going... at your age you really should recover - I think too many cycles with too little time off have hit you hard, hang in there bro.
 
What if I tell the doc my cycle etc.. and puts me on clomid again then after I ran the clomid my test is in the normal range. How long do I have to wait for my next cycle to start. And will I be shut down like that next cycle also.
 
I would tell your doc you would prefer at this time NOT to take anything and that you would like simply take some time to rejuvenate your nat test on your own. Doc can't make you do anything. Post-Cycle & Unleashed from Protein Factory contains all the necessary herbs to help increase your free test & contain mutiple aphrodisiacs. I would say once you see your test levels at an acceptable range for your age (around 700-900ng/ml), wait a good 2 more months than you could begin your next cycle.
 
if I get it back up using clomid and etc... when do I go back on, how long will I have to keep my natural test up I stoped my cycle the end of sept.,

Another thing is I dont know if I should just start anyway because If my test is low then more then likely its going to be low after gettning it normal for awhile then going back on (i'll be in the same boat), also I dont know why its low I didnt lose that much wieght after only 5 lbs my sex drive was low but is getting better as the days go on.

Black,
shouldnt i take clomid and or nolva again and if so how long and at what dose
 
cdownie927 said:
I dont know why its low I didnt lose that much wieght after only 5 lbs my sex drive was low but is getting better as the days go on.
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Just stay clean for a while, get checked out a couple weeks down the road, run some more clomid or hcg if you feel like it. If your sex drive is getting better that would lead one to beleive your body is bringing itself back. The last thing you need right now is to start juicin again.
 
Ive had an varacasele sergery which is an over sized blood vesle in the testes which i had surgery in 2000, the doc said then there was a chance of not having kids then, I dont know if that is a cause of low test and ive always had it, I also had my sperm checked 2 months ago right after cycle and was 8million out of normal 20million,

the surgery was they cut and tied the main vien that brings blood to testes in sack


Thanks black for the help, what do think about the above, Iwasnt thinking about running hcg just clomid,
 
Thats funny thats what the doc said and that I may be very potent. Do you think the vercasale I had may have lowered my test and or surgery, and I thought clomid helps raise natural test without surpressing, and hcg will suppress ( which I wont use unless on cycle) Im thinking on running it for a month before getting tested again 100mg 2weeks 50 mg 2weeks, My next appointment with the doc is end of december and that was my doc that did the surgery (urologist)

If I could give you more karma I would for the help!
 
Well I am no doctor but maybe some of the doctor vets around here and give you a more scientific/comprehensive answer. My guess would be that ya, any fucking around with your balls could indeed lower your natural test. As far as the clomid goes there is much controversy around here about its usefullness. Alot of users report the opposite effect with it (about raising test levels). Its a personal thing. Not trying to sound like a broken record, but go to www.proteinfactory.com and try their Unleashed and Post-Cycle. At this point you have nothing to lose. I have tried their products and they work well.
 
ok i can speak from experience FSH & LH recover quite quick post cycle, but test takes longer and sperm count even longer.
HCG suppresses both LH and FSH but raises test, you need more then a few shots if you are seriously suppressed , the best post cycle that worked for me was HCG 2000 iu 3 times a week for 2 months , followed by clomid and anastrozole (arimidex), however on completion of this post cycle treatment FSH and LH and Test where fine, but prolactin still high.

PS I had a urologist and endocrinologist working with me.
 
were you successful in reducing your prolactin levels? did you have to resort to bromo or dostinex, or did they normalize after getting everything else in check for awhile?

any other comments on your prolactin situation, symptoms and improvements and treatments would be appreciated...
 
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