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Update: lost 15lbs so far...

BigAndy69

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Some of you remember the health problems I'm going through right now. Some of you have PMed me and emailed me to find out how I'm doing. I really appreciate that.

Well, so far I've dropped about 15lbs and last night I had the best sleep I've had in Months. Currently at 255LBS.

At first, I started eating a BBing type diet, when I realised I didn't need that much protein or food for that matter. Stayed away from carbs...only about 120g a day...focused on seafood (can't stand chicken anymore) Shrimp and Salmon. I'm drinking close to a gallon of water a day and taking a multivitamin.

I forgot a few simple concepts:

-Excessive carbs make you hold water
-LBM burns LOTS of calories making you leaner in the long run.

Last time I was at the gym, people knew me as the 205lb low fat BF bodybuilder, so I'm too embarassed to go back right now, I'm buying a adjustable bench, olympic bar, small bars, weights, EZ curl bar and Squat rack

So far so good, no drugs as of yet.
 
sweet brother, that's awesome! are you loadiong up on fresh, raw green veggies like cuc's, broccoli, etc., etc. how about some primo (when you're ready) to avoid going catabolic and go way low calorie. bro i hate to be a pain in the ass but you should get on some nattokinase eventually, that can prevent a heart attack and stoke like nothing else available. keep it up man!!!
 
The truth 40, so far I just decided to lose as much weight as possible...so I ate like a model...lol

Egg sandwich in the morning
Tuna with beans
Protein bar
salmon with veggies
shrimp ring

I'm going to make my diet healthier now... nattokinase...I'll definetely keep that in mind..is it a vitamin/mineral type supp?

btw, give me a call sometime bro.
 
What Is Nattokinase?

Nattokinase is a potent fibrinolytic enzyme extracted and highly purified from a traditional Japanese food called Natto. Natto is a fermented cheese-like food that has been used in Japan for over 1000 years for its popular taste and as a folk remedy for heart and vascular diseases. Natto is produced by a fermentation process by adding Bacillus natto, a benefical bacteria, to boiled soybeans. The resulting nattokinase enzyme, is produced when Bacillus natto acts on the soybeans. While other soy foods contain enzymes, it is only the natto preparation that contains the specific nattokinase enzyme.

The Discovery of Nattokinase

Doctor Hiroyuki Sumi had long researched thrombolytic enzymes searching for a natural agent that could successfully dissolve thrombus associated with cardiac and cerebral infarction (blood clots associated with heart attacks and stroke). Sumi discovered nattokinase in 1980 while working as a researcher and majoring in physiological chemistry at Chicago University Medical School. After testing over 173 natural foods as potential thrombolytic agents, Sumi found what he was looking for when Natto was dropped onto artificial thrombus (fibrin) in a Petri dish and allowed it to stand at 37 C (approximately body temperature). The thrombus around the natto dissolved gradually and had completely dissolved within 18 hours. Sumi named the newly discovered enzyme "nattokinase", which means "enzyme in natto". Sumi commented that nattokinase showed "a potency matched by no other enzyme." 1,7

Potent Thrombolytic Activity

The human body produces several types of enzymes for making thrombus, but only one main enzyme for breaking it down and dissolving it - plasmin. The properties of nattokinase closely resemble plasmin. According to Dr. Martin Milner, from the Center for Natural Medicine in Portland, Oregon, what makes nattokinase a particularly potent treatment, is that it enhances the body's natural ability to fight blood clots in several different ways; Because it so closely resembles plasmin, it dissolves fibrin directly. In addition, it also enhances the body's production of both plasmin and other clot-dissolving agents, including urokinase (endogenous). "In some ways, Milner says, nattokinase is actually superior to conventional clot-dissolving drugs. T-PAs (tissue plasminogen activators) like urokinase (the drug), are only effective when taken intravenously and often fail simply because a stroke or heart attack victim's arteries have hardened beyond the point where they can be treated by any other clot-dissolving agent. Nattokinase, however, can help prevent that hardening with an oral dose of as little as 100 mg a day." 1,7

The Prolonged Action of Nattokinase

Nattokinase produces a prolonged action (unlike antithrombin drugs that wear off shortly after IV treatment is discontinued) in two ways: it prevents coagulation of blood and it dissolves existing thrombus. Both the efficacy and the prolonged action of NK can be determined by measuring levels of EFA (euglobulin fibrinolytic activity) and FDP (fibrin degradation products), which both become elevated as fibrin is being dissolved. By measuring EFA & FDP levels, activity of NK has been determined to last from 8 to 12 hours. An additional parameter for confirming the action of NK following oral administration is a rise in blood levels of TPA antigen (tissue plasminogen activator), which indicates a release of TPA from the endothelial cells and/or the liver.6,7

The Mechanism Behind Thrombus

Blood clots (or thrombi) form when strands of protein called fibrin accumulate in a blood vessel. In the heart, blood clots cause blockage of blood flow to muscle tissue. If blood flow is blocked, the oxygen supply to that tissue is cut off and it eventually dies. This can result in angina and heart attacks. Clots in chambers of the heart can mobilize to the brain. In the brain, blood clots also block blood and oxygen from reaching necessary areas, which can result in senility and/or stroke.1

Thrombolytic enzymes are normally generated in the endothelial cells of the blood vessels. As the body ages, production of these enzymes begins to decline, making blood more prone to coagulation. This mechanism can lead to cardiac or cerebral infarction, as well as other conditions. Since endothelial cells exist throughout the body, such as in the arteries, veins and lymphatic system, poor production of thrombolytic enzymes can lead to the development of thrombotic conditions virtually anywhere in the body.7

It has recently been revealed that thrombotic clogging of the cerebral blood vessels may be a cause of dementia. It has been estimated that sixty percent of senile dementia patients in Japan is caused by thrombus. Thrombotic diseases typically include cerebral hemorrhage, cerebral infarction, cardiac infarction and angina pectoris, and also include diseases caused by blood vessels with lowered flexibility, including senile dementia and diabetes (caused by pancreatic dysfunction). Hemorrhoids are considered a local thrombotic condition. If chronic diseases of the capillaries are also considered, then the number of thrombus related conditions may be much higher. Cardiac infarction patients may have an inherent imbalance in that their thrombolytic enzymes are weaker than their coagulant enzymes. Nattokinase holds great promise to support patients with such inherent weaknesses in a convenient and consistent manner, without side effects.1,6,7 Nattokinase is capable of directly and potently decomposing fibrin as well as activating pro-urokinase (endogenous).

Research In The United States

Dr. Martin Milner of the Center for Natural Medicine in Portland, Oregon and Dr. Kouhei Makise of the Imadeqawa Makise Clinica in Kyoto, Japan were able to launch a joint research project on nattokinase and write an extensive paper on their findings. "In all my years of research as a professor of cardiovascular and pulmonary medicine, natto and nattokinase represents the most exciting new development in the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular related diseases," Dr. Milner said. "We have finally found a potent natural agent that can thin and dissolve clots effectively, with relative safety and without side effects." 1

Animal & Human Studies

Nattokinase has been the subject of 17 studies, including two small human trials. Dr. Sumi and his colleagues induced blood clots in male dogs, then orally administered either four capsules of nattokinase (250 mg per capsule) or four placebo capsules to each dog. Angiograms (X-rays of blood vessels) revealed that the dogs who received nattokinase regained normal blood circulation (free of the clot) within five hours of treatment. Blood clots in the dogs who received only placebo showed no sign of dissolving in the 18 hours following treatment.1,3

Researchers from Biotechnology Research Laboratories and JCR Pharmaceuticals Co. of Kobe, Japan, tested nattokinase's ability to dissolve a thrombus in the carotid arteries of rats. Animals treated with nattokinase regained 62 percent of blood flow, whereas those treated with plasmin regained just 15.8 percent of blood flow.1

Researchers from JCR Pharmaceuticals, Oklahoma State University, and Miyazaki Medical College tested nattokinase on 12 healthy Japanese volunteers (6 men and 6 women, between the ages of 21 and 55). They gave the volunteers 200 grams of natto (the food) before breakfast, then tracked fibrinolytic activity through a series of blood plasma tests. The tests indicated that the natto generated a heightened ability to dissolve blood clots: On average, the volunteers' ELT (a measure of how long it takes to dissolve a blood clot) dropped by 48 percent within two hours of treatment, and volunteers retained an enhanced ability to dissolve blood clots for 2 to 8 hours. As a control, researchers later fed the same amount of boiled soybeans to the same volunteers and tracked their fibrinolytic activity. The tests showed no significant change.1,3,6

The Benefits of Nattokinase on Blood Pressure

Traditionaly in Japan, Natto has been consumed not only for cardiovascular support, but also to lower blood pressure. In recent years, this traditional belief has been confirmed by several clinical trials. In 1995, researchers from Miyazaki Medical College and Kurashiki University of Science and Arts in Japan studied the effects of nattokinase on blood pressure in both animal and human subjects (see below). In addition, the researchers confirmed the presence of inhibitors of angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE), which converts angiotensin I to its active form angiotensin II within the test extract, which consisted of 80% ethanol extract of lyophilized viscous materials of natto. ACE causes blood vessels to narrow and blood pressure to rise - by inhibiting ACE, nattokinase has a lowering effect on blood pressure.1,2

Animal Study

After a single intraperitoneal administration of 400-450 grams of the test extract (equivalent to 25 mg of natto food) into male Wister rats, systolic blood pressure (SBP) significantly decreased from 166 + mmHg to 145 + 24 mmHg in just two hours (p<0.05), and decreased further to 144 + 27 mmHg in 3 hours (p<0.05). On average, this data represents a 12.7 percent drop in SBP within two hours.1,2

Human Study

The same natto extract was then tested on human volunteers with high blood pressure. Blood pressure levels were measured after 30 grams of lyophilized extract (equivalent to 200 grams of natto food) was administered orally for 4 consecutive days. In 4 out of 5 volunteers, the systolic blood pressure (SBP) decreased on average from 173.8 + 20.5 mmHg to 154.8 + 12.6 mmHg. Diastolic blood pressure (DBP) decreased on average from 101.0 + 11.4 mmHg to 91.2 + 6.6 mmHg. On average, this data represents a 10.9 percent drop in SBP and a 9.7 percent drop in DBP.1,2,6

Conclusion

The traditional Japanese food Natto has been used safely for over 1000 years. The potent fibrinolytic enzyme nattokinase appears to be safe based upon the long-term traditional use of this food. Nattokinase has many benefits including convenience of oral administration, confirmed efficacy, prolonged effects, cost effectiveness, and can be used preventatively. It is a naturally occurring, food based dietary supplement that has demonstrated stability in the gastrointestinal tract, as well as to changes in pH and temperature.
 
I am unaware of your paticular health problems however I fully
understand the feeling of being known as the ripped bodybuilder at the gym and then either LOSE it all or GAIN a bunch of fat.

The thought of going back to the gym can literally by psychologically and emotionally draining.

I wish you the best and hope you can get through your ordeal
and back to that 205lb monster that you were.

Good luck!
 
Good to see you making progress. I would suggest going natural until you stop getting results. Good luck.
 
BigAndy69 said:
I'm buying a adjustable bench, olympic bar, small bars, weights, EZ curl bar and Squat rack


Thats what I have bro. Can't stand gyms or people at gyms so I turned my garage into my gym. I'll never go back. Sometimes I w/o in just my boxers. Can't do that at the local gym. :D :D

Good luck on the journey. You'll be back to your old self in no time.
 
Re: Re: Update: lost 15lbs so far...

easy said:


Thats what I have bro. Can't stand gyms or people at gyms so I turned my garage into my gym. I'll never go back. Sometimes I w/o in just my boxers. Can't do that at the local gym. :D :D

Good luck on the journey. You'll be back to your old self in no time.


Goodluck andy...

I love the Gym cause of the women, and the other guys i get to laugh at when they make idiots of themselves.
 
Hey Andy, not to sure as to the extent of your health problems also. Just remember that the best part of working out and going to the gym is when you have a goal and the process that you go through to get there. I stopped giving a shit what others think of me a long time ago. I go to the gym to work towards my goal everytime, and each time I go I get closer and closer.

I agree with 40 on the diet, as some "carbless carbs" into your diet. Tomatoes, broccoli, carrots, mixed veggies etc, not only are they great when dieting, but very healthy for you also, especially your dark greens. I am with you on the seafood to bro, I usually eat it about 3 times / week. I dont think that shrimp provides an over abundance of protien, but they are still good. I BBQ salmon, halibut steaks, and sole all the time. Also rotate some red meat into the mix or some lean pork tenderloin so you dont get to board. You can down the chicken if you mix it up with something (ie, make some fajitas, or in some pasta etc). Even though you are still dieting, take 1 day to carb up pretty good. Hope this helps a little bro. SOunds like you should be on your way to getting ripped soon. Just remember that it is a process and will not happen over night. Just gotta stay dedicated. Good luck man.

Take Care,
Mavy
 
well just think that if you go and people see you at 255 then their mouth will drop with how fast you lose it......and you will be known forever as the diet master.
 
shape said:
bigandy-go back to the gym who gives a #%@$%%^ what other people think

I'd agree w/ shape... people who'd judge you anyways are assholes, so who gives a fuck about them, do what is best for you
 
Just to show you how much of a good bro 40 is, he has offered to send me a box of nattokinase (for healthy heart) for free.

Thanks for everyone's support I really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart...

I have a rather large stash of AS, and since I don't want to keep it around and I refuse to sell it, I will be giving it out to elite members. Eviction was the first winner.
 
You're on the right track andy. Just drink a couple protein shakes in there to make sure you have the protein down. :)

-sk
 
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