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Up Comming Cycle

Jonny Eric

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test e 18 weeks 500mg
deca 12 weeks 300mg
eq 16 weeks 600mg
dbol 4 weeks 40mg
t3 and clen from week 12 to 18 for cutting
(t3)
w1: 25mcg
w2: 50mcg
w3: 75mcg
w4: 75mcg
w5: 50 mcg
w6: 25mcg
(clen)
2 weeks on, 2 weeks off 120mcg

age: 29 height: 6'1 weight: 193lbs bf: 14-15% cycles exp: 4

any suggest !
 
i suggest a different cycle... drop the t3 and clen... i really don't like deca and dbol ran together... your going to be a water balloon... you listed no supports, no pct, nothing... its not good... what is your goal from the cycle?
 
My goal:
first 12 weeks bulking to add lean mass and make a big change in my body
last 6 weeks cutting to drop the BF to 8-10%

i think pct will be:
nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
clomid: 100/100/50/50
hcg: from beginning of cycle 250iu 2x week
adex: 0.25 eod
caber: recommend the dose for me ?
 
Alright.. check it out.

First, I like your idea of Bulking the first part of your cycle, then cutting/recomping the last part. Your muscle gains are going to stall out around the 8 week mark and be toast by week 10 unless you add in an extremely anabolic compound like tren. So only bulk for the first 7-8, and then transition into your cut.

Second, switch out Deca for NPP. Will hit you quicker, and clear faster. So your bulk will better. 100mg/eod of NPP for the first 8-10 weeks. I am running Test, EQ, and NPP right now and loving it.

Third, pick up some aromasin, not adex. Aromasin is the better option for estrogen control. If you don't have a place to get it, go with ag-guys.. they are the best in the business. They also have caber, which is a must with a nandralone. .5mg twice a week is a great starting point.

Fourth, make sure to get some cycle support. D-Bol can be quite toxic, so protecting youself is a must. N2Guard is a must, no ifs, ands, or buts. It does so much more than just protect your liver. It would be beneficial with EQ to help keep blood pressure in check.

Fifth, I can't knock Clen+T3 too much. I've used it at the end of a cycle many times to help shed that extra fat to get ready for stage. But times have changed, and there are better options my man. GW-50 is the best fat loss compound out. And unlike T-3 and Clen, it is side free. It makes you feel great all day, and you don't run the risk of eating up your muscle along with the fat. I am in my prep for the NPC Junior Nationals and will be changing from the Clen, T3 combo to the GW instead. If you give it a try, you will not be disapointed. 20mg a day for 8-12 weeks at the end. SARMS1 is buy 2 get 1 free right now.. you can't get a better product for the price.. anywhere.

Finally, your PCT comes straight from 1987. It might get the job done, but there is a better way to go about things now. You are going to get a lot of opinions on what to do, but this is the route I'd take. Starting 4 weeks out from PCT, blast HCG 500-1000iu eod. The last week, switch to ED and stop 4 days before you start Clomid and Nolva. Run the Clomid for 4 weeks, 50/50/25/25.. and the Nolva for 4 weeks 40/40/20/20. Run your AI with this for 6 weeks at the same does you need on cycle. Now add in some test boosters to help elevate your natural test.. and help things like your libido. Your best options would be HCGenerate, Phytoserms:347, or Test Stack 17. Then add in Unleashed to help elevate your free test which is key in PCT. D-AA is also a great add. You can get the HCGenerate, Phytoserms, Unleashed, and D-AA at N2BM. They are worth it. Which ever you decide to run.. stay on them until you feeled fully recovered.
 
Alright.. check it out.

First, I like your idea of Bulking the first part of your cycle, then cutting/recomping the last part. Your muscle gains are going to stall out around the 8 week mark and be toast by week 10 unless you add in an extremely anabolic compound like tren. So only bulk for the first 7-8, and then transition into your cut.

Second, switch out Deca for NPP. Will hit you quicker, and clear faster. So your bulk will better. 100mg/eod of NPP for the first 8-10 weeks. I am running Test, EQ, and NPP right now and loving it.

Third, pick up some aromasin, not adex. Aromasin is the better option for estrogen control. If you don't have a place to get it, go with ag-guys.. they are the best in the business. They also have caber, which is a must with a nandralone. .5mg twice a week is a great starting point.

Fourth, make sure to get some cycle support. D-Bol can be quite toxic, so protecting youself is a must. N2Guard is a must, no ifs, ands, or buts. It does so much more than just protect your liver. It would be beneficial with EQ to help keep blood pressure in check.

Fifth, I can't knock Clen+T3 too much. I've used it at the end of a cycle many times to help shed that extra fat to get ready for stage. But times have changed, and there are better options my man. GW-50 is the best fat loss compound out. And unlike T-3 and Clen, it is side free. It makes you feel great all day, and you don't run the risk of eating up your muscle along with the fat. I am in my prep for the NPC Junior Nationals and will be changing from the Clen, T3 combo to the GW instead. If you give it a try, you will not be disapointed. 20mg a day for 8-12 weeks at the end. SARMS1 is buy 2 get 1 free right now.. you can't get a better product for the price.. anywhere.

Finally, your PCT comes straight from 1987. It might get the job done, but there is a better way to go about things now. You are going to get a lot of opinions on what to do, but this is the route I'd take. Starting 4 weeks out from PCT, blast HCG 500-1000iu eod. The last week, switch to ED and stop 4 days before you start Clomid and Nolva. Run the Clomid for 4 weeks, 50/50/25/25.. and the Nolva for 4 weeks 40/40/20/20. Run your AI with this for 6 weeks at the same does you need on cycle. Now add in some test boosters to help elevate your natural test.. and help things like your libido. Your best options would be HCGenerate, Phytoserms:347, or Test Stack 17. Then add in Unleashed to help elevate your free test which is key in PCT. D-AA is also a great add. You can get the HCGenerate, Phytoserms, Unleashed, and D-AA at N2BM. They are worth it. Which ever you decide to run.. stay on them until you feeled fully recovered.
i don't like NPP because alot of pins !
what should i run now ? ?
here there is no GW-50 only t3 !
 
i don't like NPP because alot of pins !
what should i run now ? ?
here there is no GW-50 only t3 !

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Well if you want to keep pins limited, then Deca is fine.

The thing about T-3 is.. that it will burn fat, but if your dosage get to high.. it can burn muscle to.. even with AAS in there. And then when you come off of it.. your thyroid isn't fully functioning so your metabolic rate is at rock bottom so you are going to be very prone to gaining all the fat you lost back. Also, how you have it set up.. your going to be going into PCT with a low functioning thyroid. So you bodies hormones are going to be at an all time low. Not the best idea.. when you want to recover and keep gains.
 
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Well if you want to keep pins limited, then Deca is fine.

The thing about T-3 is.. that it will burn fat, but if your dosage get to high.. it can burn muscle to.. even with AAS in there. And then when you come off of it.. your thyroid isn't fully functioning so your metabolic rate is at rock bottom so you are going to be very prone to gaining all the fat you lost back. Also, how you have it set up.. your going to be going into PCT with a low functioning thyroid. So you bodies hormones are going to be at an all time low. Not the best idea.. when you want to recover and keep gains.
iam from egypt

so if i run deca, does 300mg fine or pump to 350-400 ?

my maximum dose of t3 will be 75mcg, does it fine for not loss muscles or reduce it to 50mcg ?
 
Why does everyone insist on fucking with their thyroid? T3 is bad choice and it's catabolic as fuck. GW is the safest, most side free fat burner out here and won't make you feel like shit. It's also anti catabolic
 
400mg of Deca would be better imo. But do whatever you are comfortable with.

I am telling you that GW-50 would be a much better option than T-3 and Clen. They ship all over the world so I am sure Egypt is an option. I'd check into that before making your decision on the T-3 and Clen.

If you are going to run the T3, I would not go any higher than 50mcg a day. And only run it for 4 week max and stop a couple weeks before PCT. Pick up some Thyroid supplements to aide the recovery when you come off of it.
 
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