Up 12 Lbs- 2 weeks in

[KDubba]

Been taking Derma and Phyto for 2.5 weeks and epi for 2 weeks. Got the cylclo started today.
Diet is far from clean- i am actually tired of eating and drinking so much water. I get hungry every 3 hours. Must be eating around 4000 cals a day,
Other supps include cycle support,15g of BCAA, 10g glutamine, and muscle milk and 1 one ABB XXL drink daily.
Workouts were getting better slowly but past few were great.
Started 170 around 8% and now 182 BF does not seem to have changed I can still see my abs.
Lethargy is crazybut i feel great when im in the gym- i feel like a kid when im walking into the gym- i get so excited.
Will be running derm/phyto for about 2 more weeks and epi five more weeks, Cyclo 6 more.
PCT base will be Nolva and probably something else.

 

[sixxtoes]

nice, keep it up

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Been taking Derma and Phyto for 2.5 weeks and epi for 2 weeks. Got the cylclo started today.
Diet is far from clean- i am actually tired of eating and drinking so much water. I get hungry every 3 hours. Must be eating around 4000 cals a day,
Other supps include cycle support,15g of BCAA, 10g glutamine, and muscle milk and 1 one ABB XXL drink daily.
Workouts were getting better slowly but past few were great.
Started 170 around 8% and now 182 BF does not seem to have changed I can still see my abs.
Lethargy is crazybut i feel great when im in the gym- i feel like a kid when im walking into the gym- i get so excited.
Will be running derm/phyto for about 2 more weeks and epi five more weeks, Cyclo 6 more.
PCT base will be Nolva and probably something else.

Witch of the epi products are you running?Havoc?

 

[KDubba]

I have both will bunning epi for the first 3 weeks and havoc for the second- I got the epi cheap but honestly feel as though I am getting more lethargy than results from it. I started taking 1 every 8 hours a few days ago. I think I may stop taking epi and start the havoc and see if i feel a difference.
Workouts are up an average 10% all around.
When I flex it feels like i can pump my muscles and make them explode- crazy.

 

[dabuffguy]

I have both will bunning epi for the first 3 weeks and havoc for the second- I got the epi cheap but honestly feel as though I am getting more lethargy than results from it. I started taking 1 every 8 hours a few days ago. I think I may stop taking epi and start the havoc and see if i feel a difference.
Workouts are up an average 10% all around.
When I flex it feels like i can pump my muscles and make them explode- crazy.

lol. Epi and hovoc are the exact same thing, but with a different name. you won't see a difference bro.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

lol. Epi and hovoc are the exact same thing, but with a different name. you won't see a difference bro.

There has been a lot of bad feedback on Epi and proof of inpure hormone qualities done in lab tests.Epi was the original product but seems Havoc has much better reviews and feedback.

 

[KDubba]

Yeah I looked into it, word is epi with the white cap on the bottle is not as good as epi with the black cap and i have the white cap.
Up almolst 15 pounds but thats nightime weight which is allways a lil over a pound for me

 

[KDubba]

If funk is the the active ingrediant in epi and havoc they are equal in potency cause the both smell like farts