underdosed gear?

[1nsan3power]

Hi guys new to this forum.

10 months ago did a 1st cycle of 9 wks test at 375mg (last two weeks did 500) and a kicker of 3 wks 25mg dbol. On the 3rd week started hcg 250iu twice weekly till the end of the cycle. Diet and training were spot on and went from 77 to 84.5kgs. No nasty sides except some bloating especially in my face.
After PCT I went down to about 82kgs and kept that weight for about 5 months. Unfortunately I had injured my shoulder and had to cut down on the gym + had an exam session which really killed my mood for training and my weight went down to 77 again .

Now that my shoulder has healed and exams were over I hit the gym once more and ran a 2nd cycle of 12 weeks test@ 500mg with a kicker of 30mg dbol. I am now in week 8 and my weight varies between 81-82 kgs. Strength and libido has gone up a bit but not like the 1st cycle. However my main concern is the bloat. This time around I have no bloat whatsoever which makes me think that the test is underdosed.. I am not using any AI's.

What do you guys think? Is this normal?

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

No bloat at all would be strange but not unheard of for a test cycle, but with dianabol you should have bloating. It does sound like it's possibly underdosed.

 

[1nsan3power]

And the fact that during my first cycle I had a bit of face bloat with only 375mg. Now with 500 nothing. During the first 3 weeks whilst running dianabol I had some minor bloating. Everyone claims that the lab I bought from is good. Will try a different 1 next time.

 

[NegroPops]

lab?

 

[1nsan3power]

For my first cycle I used diamond pharma, now Im using Alpha which is supposed to be good.

 

[RickRock13]

I don't bloat on test much, if any at all. Bloat on test can be controlled with the correct diet, and being lean enough in my opinion.

 

[The_Chemist]

Hope this helps.

After performing a few HPLC tests on API I had made, I came to the conclusion that the chemist does indeed make it at the correct dosage - say 250mg/ml for arguments sake. That being said, what the chemist does NOT know is that the assayed PURITY for Chinese powders is dropping substantially. Most Chinese API suppliers quote the standard 98% assayed purity, however i'm seeing more like 80-90% on my tests.

Ergo, the gear is not underdosed, but rather less pure. The HPLC tests aren't cheap, but I sleep well.

PM me if you have any questions.

 

[sterolizer]

I never worry about using under dosed gear anymore as I have found Geneva pharmacy, it is probably the best I've ever used

 

[dylangemelli]

it would appear that what you have is underdosed... that is the risk you take when switching labs, especially with ugl because even though they know what they are doing, they have no control on purity of raws...

 

[The_Chemist]

it would appear that what you have is underdosed... that is the risk you take when switching labs, especially with ugl because even though they know what they are doing, they have no control on purity of raws...

Not necessarily. While they have no control on the purity of the API, A good UGL should perform a HPLC on all finished products. Anything less is unacceptable. The UGL I use provides HPLC tests on all finished products.

I tested and discarded many API suppliers before I found one that tested 95%+ consistently.

 

[dylangemelli]

Not necessarily. While they have no control on the purity of the API, A good UGL should perform a HPLC on all finished products. Anything less is unacceptable. The UGL I use provides HPLC tests on all finished products.

I tested and discarded many API suppliers before I found one that tested 95%+ consistently.

my point is that they no control on what is being sent to them... its up to them to do the proper tests... you know what your getting with pharm grade... I highly doubt every ugl is doing the type of testing you are... im not saying it can't or shouldn't be done because i agree that it most certainly should, but lets face it, that's not happening...