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Shaved Ape
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I have been debating the problem of losing more and more gains post-cycle after the first several cycles and am now considering the very short cycles of fast-acting AS that have been discussed before . Everyone responds differently but I would appreciate any feedback.
I am contemplating something like this:
2-2.5 weeks at 75mg prop/75mg fina/30mg dbol
4 weeks off
Repeat 1 or 2 times
with the possibility of HCG during or between + clomid if necessary. I know that HPTA shut-down occurs rapidly and certainly is significantly suppressed within 2 weeks of use, but it may recover much more quickly following cessation of extremely short cycles. This approach seems particularly beneficial if you are the type who makes most of their gains in the first few weeks of a cycle.
In my case, I have always made most of my gains (at least in BW) within the first 3-4 weeks of a cycle. Considering that all my cycles have consisted of sust or sust + other relatively slow-acting esters (with the exception of Fina) this means that I am making most of my gains during an even shorter time of sufficiently elevated androgen levels.
My first few cycles were short -- around 4-5 weeks, and I gained around 20lbs on each, keeping most of this post-cycle. My last two have been around 8 weeks and I have lost 50-75% of my gains post-cycle (not just water), despite the use of clomid and all other preventative measures.
Everyone knows that diminishing returns are a problem with subsequent cycles but it seems that I have more of a problem with diminishing ability to maintain muscle gains.
Does anyone have any insight or experience with shorter cycles or with the problem of maintaining gains, despite all preventative measures? Any input is welcome.
I am contemplating something like this:
2-2.5 weeks at 75mg prop/75mg fina/30mg dbol
4 weeks off
Repeat 1 or 2 times
with the possibility of HCG during or between + clomid if necessary. I know that HPTA shut-down occurs rapidly and certainly is significantly suppressed within 2 weeks of use, but it may recover much more quickly following cessation of extremely short cycles. This approach seems particularly beneficial if you are the type who makes most of their gains in the first few weeks of a cycle.
In my case, I have always made most of my gains (at least in BW) within the first 3-4 weeks of a cycle. Considering that all my cycles have consisted of sust or sust + other relatively slow-acting esters (with the exception of Fina) this means that I am making most of my gains during an even shorter time of sufficiently elevated androgen levels.
My first few cycles were short -- around 4-5 weeks, and I gained around 20lbs on each, keeping most of this post-cycle. My last two have been around 8 weeks and I have lost 50-75% of my gains post-cycle (not just water), despite the use of clomid and all other preventative measures.
Everyone knows that diminishing returns are a problem with subsequent cycles but it seems that I have more of a problem with diminishing ability to maintain muscle gains.
Does anyone have any insight or experience with shorter cycles or with the problem of maintaining gains, despite all preventative measures? Any input is welcome.
