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Ultimate cutting stack?

dr0832

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Would taking all these together in proper dose be a good cutting stake:
ALCAR 2-4g
R-ALA + Biotin 500-600mg
CLA 8-10g
Pyruvate (unknown dosage)
Green Tea 200mg
Ephedrine 50mg
Caffeine 300-400mg
Guggul (unknown dosage)
Yohimburn 5 squirts
Is there anything that should be added or eliminated?
 
you can nix pyruvate (calcium pyruvate I assume) as the evidence on this is conflicting and most studies were performed on deficient women. CLA - the same, you need proper CLA substrate, otherwise it can be conter productive to your weight loss.
Green tea - 2g+ (well, depends on how the EGCG is standardized)
Add good b-complex and l-tyr (1-3g's a day) - good synergistic effect with the rest of those :o
 
you can get a good portion of those ingredients
from
Levorex
with added lipolytic bonuses :)

Levorex is a powerful but more natural approach to fat loss. Levorex provides significant nootropic benefits due to the inclusion of Acetyl-l-Carnitine and Vinpocetine. Levorex enhances the natural thermogenic and lipolytic action of your body without the use of strong stimulants like ephedra. The novel vanilloid receptor agonist EvoPure addresses a previously undeveloped but important thermogenic pathway.Levorex is a stimulant free thermogenic and lipolytic formula. It enhances your body's ability to burn fat as well as enhancing your metabolism. Most fat burners work by speeding you up.

Ingredients per servings:

Acetyl-l-carnitine 400mg
Acetyl-l-tyrosine 50mg
Green tea extract 98% (50% egcg) 180mg
Rhodiola rosea (3% rosavins) 25mg
Grape seed extract 98% 50mg
Bioperine® 4mg
EvoPure (Pure evodiamine) 20mg
Vinpocetine 4mg
Tyramine base 10mg
Pyroxidal-5-phosphate 3mg
Calcium pantothenate 10mg


Contains 360 capsules
Use 2-4 capsules, Three times a day
 
how are the ladies liking this product macro?

macrophage69alpha said:
you can get a good portion of those ingredients
from
Levorex
with added lipolytic bonuses :)

Levorex is a powerful but more natural approach to fat loss. Levorex provides significant nootropic benefits due to the inclusion of Acetyl-l-Carnitine and Vinpocetine. Levorex enhances the natural thermogenic and lipolytic action of your body without the use of strong stimulants like ephedra. The novel vanilloid receptor agonist EvoPure addresses a previously undeveloped but important thermogenic pathway.Levorex is a stimulant free thermogenic and lipolytic formula. It enhances your body's ability to burn fat as well as enhancing your metabolism. Most fat burners work by speeding you up.

Ingredients per servings:

Acetyl-l-carnitine 400mg
Acetyl-l-tyrosine 50mg
Green tea extract 98% (50% egcg) 180mg
Rhodiola rosea (3% rosavins) 25mg
Grape seed extract 98% 50mg
Bioperine® 4mg
EvoPure (Pure evodiamine) 20mg
Vinpocetine 4mg
Tyramine base 10mg
Pyroxidal-5-phosphate 3mg
Calcium pantothenate 10mg


Contains 360 capsules
Use 2-4 capsules, Three times a day
 
as a note- recent studies and research into the older (oddly unavailable studies) indicates that guggulsterones are not effective as thyrotrophic agent nor as a cholesterol lowering agent.

their only positive effect seems to be on the FXR (farsenoid x receptor) which may reduce bile acidity.

this study indicates very negative effects, ones that might lower cholesterol at significant dosage, but as you read you will see what negative impacts (from an athletic stanpoint it might have)

Mol Pharmacol. 2005 Mar;67(3):948-54. Epub 2004 Dec 15. Related Articles, Links


The hypolipidemic natural product guggulsterone is a promiscuous steroid receptor ligand.

Burris TP, Montrose C, Houck KA, Osborne HE, Bocchinfuso WP, Yaden BC, Cheng CC, Zink RW, Barr RJ, Hepler CD, Krishnan V, Bullock HA, Burris LL, Galvin RJ, Bramlett K, Stayrook KR.

Lilly Research Laboratories, Lilly Corporate Center, Indianapolis, IN 46285, USA. [email protected]

Guggulsterone (GS) is the active substance in guggulipid, an extract of the guggul tree, Commiphora mukul, used to treat a variety of disorders in humans, including dyslipidemia, obesity, and inflammation. The activity of GS has been suggested to be mediated by antagonism of the receptor for bile acids, the farnesoid X receptor (FXR). Here, we demonstrate that both stereoisomers of the plant sterol, (E)- and (Z)-GS, bind to the steroid receptors at a much higher affinity than to FXR. Both stereoisomers bind to the mineralocorticoid receptor (MR) with a Ki value of approximately 35 nM, which is greater than 100 times more potent than their affinity for FXR. Both (E)- and (Z)-GS also displayed high affinity for other steroid receptors, including the androgen (AR), glucocorticoid (GR), and progesterone receptors (PR) with Ki values ranging from 224 to 315 nM. In cell-based functional cotransfection assays, GSs behaved as antagonists of AR, GR, and MR, but as agonists of PR. Agonist activity was also demonstrated with estrogen receptor (ER) alpha; however, the potency was very low (EC50 > 5000 nM). In addition, GS displayed activity in functional assays in cell lines expressing endogenous AR, GR, ER, and PR. These data suggest that the variety of pharmacological effects exhibited by GS may be mediated by targeting several steroid receptors.
 
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