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This information is a good read, and recent from a UK 'pro'.

Among the boards I visit you dont get better advice than the board this moderator is from

Any info he would give I would take as gospel. He has not been there but is doing it... Take a look below.



There no real title but it give you an insight into a pros lifestyle. Its the Truth. Nothing surprisiing really, but the truth.

He called it " who wants to know the secret behing getin massive/i have the answer for all the see"

His first post read...

let me know and ill explain all
no hold barred now
ive had to many emails of ppl complaining of crap gains
come on then who wants it?

Here it is...

there u go guys
the way i see it,no bull,no holding bk,i aint perfect but if it helps a few ov you then i cnt be any happier
i hope it interests you or reminds you ov how it should be


excuse the grammer,but i aint here to be prim and proper,jst want to throw some things about

many of you are correct
so i am sorry to those who already knew the answer but with many emails per day

asking the same question,you can kinda imagine i get fed-up a little bit as i see

they do not listen as they ask the same thing 3 mnths down the line
there is no secret but if i can enlighten you as to how/or what i takes to become

bigger than your average weight lifter then im happy and i guess a handfull ov you

are also

many guys here will not want to become massive,huge or much bigger than they

are,many only want that extra egde between cycles where they gain 5-10lbs and

look good for the 12-14 on cycle
but some of you want to know what it takes and how its done to go beyond

for those wanting more and much more then here goes

lets start with the sacrifices one may have to make when striving for this goal

1.limited social life/less than 2 x per mnth if any at all
2.loss of loved one or never finding a person who will understand or you can relate

too
3.losing yourself in the bodybuilding world,distance from non bodybuilding relating

friends,family etc
4.forever struggling with funds to aid your goals.food being most important,it costs

money and so does supplements and steroids
5.going beyond normal training,heavy is the only way for shear mass gain,this

involves injuries
6.in a perfect world we would not work and be able to bodybuild fulltime,but it isnt

perfect and anyone wanting to take things much much further has to be willing to

maybe change jobs or work less hours
yes i know some guys run full time jobs,but they are the freaks amongst us


now lets get onto the most important and most anabolic part

FOOD
yes alot of you guessed it and u were right
good food and lots ov it
im talking atleast 5k cals per day to gain huge amounts of mass,yes combined with

steroid use to which i will get into soon
i dnt care how heavy or how tall you are,u need to be consuming around 3-5k

calories per day coming from clean protein,carbs and fat's.some naughty fats are

allowed and welcomed here
the bigger guys really need the maximum amounts here 5k+,but if you can manage

the higher amounts and your lighter then please do it
i strive for between 5-6k cals per day,eating clean foods first in each meal and

then eating anything that tastes good and has high calories
we want pure mass here and lots of it so holding back on fats and sugary carbs

wnt fit the bill here,yes you can gain good on a clean diet but nt as good as a dirty

bulker imo
we all know the type of foods to eat and whats clean,processed or crap so theres

no need to go into
now im no diet expert,i only do what ive been taught and are still taught,big thanks

to james here at mt,but protein ranges from 250-450g per day is needed and again

the bigger guys need the max amount,and carbs need to be around 300-500g per

day,yes you may get fat,but if u want to get big then it dnt matter,eat more if u

cn,ram it in ya
fats ranging around 80-100g will suffice but as said more is better and if they are in

the form ov EFA/omega 3's etc then all the better
a typical days eating for me at 278lbs is

1 60g protein,100g carbs + 10g EFA
2 60g protein,100g carbs
3 60g protein 50g carbs + 10g EFA
4 60g protein 100g carbs PWO
5 60g protein 100g carbs
6 40g protein 50g carbs + 10g EFA
7 60g protein 50g carbs

all foods include veg and some fats,if i wake i have a further 60g protein in form ov

whey
my diet isnt made of shakes or powder,it has 1.5 powder meals only,half powder

and half solid protein in morning
this is just an example,but remember this is for my weight and ive trained my gut to

perform miracles,i.e eat alot more,smaller guys need to be eating 30% less but if u

cn keep up with this diet then please do so,
if you cant commit to this amount ov food then stop reading now
im lucky myself as i have enlisted james as my dietician so he takes care ov my

nutrional needs and breaks it down into nice and simple fields for me,i couldnt

work as hard as i do without the help,its better to have it worked out for u than

stress over it day and nite,ive tried it dnt work
i think ive covered the diet side ov things,so if u cnt eat big then turn away

now,because u either are lazy or jst plain ignorant,if u have to force it then so be

it,i promise it gets better,i was once 13st not only 4 years ago,forcing myself to

eat,being sick
like i say some ov u may nt want to take it to the extreme but those who do,please

listen

STEROIDS
rite here we go,this is what u want to here,afterall this is what u all ask me in ur

emails
whats the best to get big
how much should i take
should i use 5 types ov steroids in my cycle

answers to all is coming

getin big isnt about steroids,its about the above subject,once again DIET
but when using steroids one can excell,train harder,recover quicker,grow quicker

and get massive,much more so than when using diet alone,so many ppl think

steroids is the way and the only way

the best type ov gear to take,well i cnt answer that as many ppl benefit from

diferent steroids best,suffer bigger side effects and so on,but i good base of test is

a must,if wanting to push past the barrier,we can chat about safe drugs such as

primo,var,turinabol but do we get massive gains from them,no we dont,safe gains

yes,so ppl wanting to gain a small amount then once again look away

how much should u take
the average test dose is around 500-750mg per wk,now im on far more than that ill

assure u now and so is many others on here who like to fib and tell tales,and so is

all the pro's out there wo take 1 deca and 1 sus per wk
were talking gram upon gram and this isnt specualation as i have spoke to said

pro's,obviously i can name as they are still on the scene,but i doubt i have to

ill throw a few bodyweights and doses around here for u to see

under 200-220lbs 500mg per wk
220-240lbs 1000mg per wk
240-260lbs 1500mg per wk
260-280lbs 2000-3000mg per wk and so on
now u will get ur freaks who take very little gear but these are very hard to find
once we hit the bigger ranges much more gear is needed,not only for maintaining

but for gaining
these totals are a combined steroid dose per wk,so could be test and deca or test

and tren
running cycles like these will make u grow thats for sure,but what happens when u

stop growin,do u add more gear,no u dnt u add more food,around 500 cals
u then grow some more,and then when u hit another bump u can add more gear
now higher doses can seriously hamper your appetite in many guys,me included so

its bk to force feeding yourself
you also have to think about the side effects from such high doses,are u sure u

want this side effects,do you want to push yourself,where do you want to take

urself on bodybuilding,if its a hobby then look away once again sorry
if anyone wants to step up and tell me i could have goten to 278lbs in 4 years with

less gear than 3.5g per wk then please do so,cause ive been using way to much if

u can
yes i worry about side effects and esp long term but i do get checkup's and all is

well
so suggest u use a checkup service if your gner use high doses
as they say the magic is beyond 2g,they are correct also if ur stuck in a rut and

sitting around 250lbs+
we can also talk about insulin and igf,these are great meds to combine for overall

mass and should always be considered,but once again do funds permit,is it worth

it,u have to sit bk and think about it,yes or no,if its no then forget getin beyond

massive,cause u aint got the head for it,and i dnt blame u cause its ****ing hard ill

tell u

then theres training
this is only one hour ov the day so whats all the fuss really,as above diet is key and

is around a 16hr job per day,but yes training is a big part although a small one

your training should be monstrous,nt chilling out having a workout with ur mates,i

go home each nite,hanging out my hoop,aches and pains,in tears somtimes,i have

no life,i cant have a life with these pains
im a constant limp or ache person,because i train 110% each time,going heavier

than previous or more reps or better form,u must strive for somthing better each

time be it,weight,reps or form
imo the best form ov mass builder training is hard and heavy,warming up sensbily with plenty reps and strict form,squeezing each muslce as u go,be at one with that muscle,make it work,once ur warm and pre-exausted then its time for heavy basics
non ov this isolated tricep extension or cable cross overs,get in there heavy with compounds,then u cn make it burn with iso exercises after,rip it to bits,rest is also important when training this hard and heavy,atleast 5 days between each muscle part is needed and more if ur a bigger guy and cn honestly says ive training 110%,find a training partnet with the same goals and push eachother,im sick ov been the pusher and not the push eeee,u need to bounce off eachother,giving no mercy,make him work and him do the same to you or get rid simple as

i hope uve enjoyed my little rant,but i found it time to let rip as email after email get me down,when i know they dnt listen,please listen and i promise u will grow

eat big,get big powerhouse

Surfer
 
That is a nice read. I am not a pro by any means but his info is obviously very accurate. To those guys that keep saying "I don't need to eat all those cals cause I will just get fat and pros eat only 3k clean cals...blah...blah...blah". Well read it and weep.

Perp
 
blut wump said:
Eat and lift hard. The gear is a bonus.

EXACTLY.

I have to throw in that IF you arent growing naturally - you will be very disappointed when you throw gear into the same equation......


I don't understand why folks don't get that
 
The Shadow said:
EXACTLY.

I have to throw in that IF you arent growing naturally - you will be very disappointed when you throw gear into the same equation......


I don't understand why folks don't get that
it's easier not trying to understand it.
 
The Shadow said:
EXACTLY.

I have to throw in that IF you arent growing naturally - you will be very disappointed when you throw gear into the same equation......


I don't understand why folks don't get that

If only all of the "175lb monsters" on our AAS board would understand this, lol.

Good read.....and if you read the post in your head with an English accent and gravel voice, kind of like "Nobby" from old posts of Victorian-Guy, it is an awesome read.

I also hope all the guys saying compound lifts are for "fat powerlifters" took heed of the training advice, and I hope all the guys thinking they can get 'big and ripped at once' eating 1200 cals of chicken and broccoli a day and growing .00001 ounces of muscle per decade took heed of the diet info.......he even recommended training in a progressive fashion.....I disagree on going to failure and frequency, but so what.....that's about the best training advice I've heard out of the 'bodybuilding' community.

If me or any training board regulars give this advice, it is brushed off a "strength training" by guys who want to be "bodybuilders"......well....they're getting it from a bodybuilder now, so what's their excuse now?
 
BiggT said:
If me or any training board regulars give this advice, it is brushed off a "strength training" by guys who want to be "bodybuilders"......well....they're getting it from a bodybuilder now, so what's their excuse now?


Stupidity
 
al420 said:
but steroids are the most important, right? Or did I read it wrong...

I think he is saying that you don't have to kill yourself in the gym like most of these guys do 6-7 days a week training (5 of those arm days :) ) 3 days a week works great for me.

Perp
 
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