U.S. ranks 25th in life expectancy while we pay the MOST for health care

[ceo]

Not quite.
There is one party who has argued that it is more important to keep tax rates for millionaires at historic lows, than it is to pay unemployment benefits, to provide kids opportunities for student loans, to fix infrastructure, to invest in jobs programs, etc.
I'm no fan of politicians either, but clearly there is no equivalence between parties when talking about who is working more for average Americans, and who is working for the elite.

You mean you believe all that bullshit they spew? I'm looking at what they DO, not what they say. Point is, no matter which party [appears to be] in control, nothing changes. We are on a course that has been set and we will continue on, no matter who is in office.

People need to open their eyes and stop being blind and stupid. No politician is going to take care of you and until you start taking care of yourself you will fail.

 

[Headholio]

From the 4th paragraph of the report I linked above:

However, research comparing the quality of care has not found the United States
to be superior overall. Nor does the U.S. population have substantially better access
to health care resources, even putting aside the issue of the uninsured. Although the
United States does not have long wait times for non-emergency surgeries, unlike
some OECD countries, Americans found it more difficult to make same-day doctor’s
appointments when sick and had the most difficulty getting care on nights and​

weekends. They were also most likely to delay or forgo treatment because of cost.

 

[brownbrown]

1) lib #1 makes outlandish claim.

2) conservative points it out with facts and references.

3) lib #2 defends him by cut-and-paste of irrelevant talking points from DNC web site.

At least you guys are consistent.

Says the guy that posts "The Heritage foundation" as a reference for facts...olololololololololol

 

[Headholio]

You mean you believe all that bullshit they spew? I'm looking at what they DO, not what they say. Point is, no matter which party [appears to be] in control, nothing changes. We are on a course that has been set and we will continue on, no matter who is in office.

People need to open their eyes and stop being blind and stupid. No politician is going to take care of you and until you start taking care of yourself you will fail.

I look at what they do as well. To address the deficit, Republicans want to stop taking care of sick people and of old people, democrats want to get more revenue from people who can afford it. Republicans ignore the fact that revenues are at historic lows compared to GDP. When pushed for a revenue solution, they will tax anyone, and take benefits from anyone, except the rich. The failed "supercommittee" republicans plan for revenue included removing the mortgage interest deduction, effectively a huge increase in tax on millions of struggling Americans, without touching the rich.
If you do really look at what they do, you will see there is a big difference.

 

[Spartacus]

What a disingenuous load of crap.

when I look in the mirror
I'm no longer the pretty boy
but an angry soul

 

[Spartacus]

Ha ha, exactly!
Ok Mr. Plunkey, I thought you were ready for battle, but you have no bullets in your gun!

it's ammunition
you're a girl

 

[ceo]

I look at what they do as well. To address the deficit, Republicans want to stop taking care of sick people and of old people, democrats want to get more revenue from people who can afford it. Republicans ignore the fact that revenues are at historic lows compared to GDP. When pushed for a revenue solution, they will tax anyone, and take benefits from anyone, except the rich. The failed "supercommittee" republicans plan for revenue included removing the mortgage interest deduction, effectively a huge increase in tax on millions of struggling Americans, without touching the rich.
If you do really look at what they do, you will see there is a big difference.

"want to"? Fuck what they SAY they want to do. There's no difference dude. they are all in bed together. They are all rich. You really believe any of them - dems included - want to pay more taxes? You believe Warren Buffet? LOL

I'm not talking about legislation that never gets passed. This is pointless. Believe the lies bro. Yes, the dems are all about you and me. They love us to the point they would sacrifice their own money and wealth for the little guy. Aren't they great?

 

[mrplunkey]

The damage that Obama and his rhetoric have done to our underlying tax base is massive.

It's disturbing that people actually believe and regurgitate this garbage.

 

[Headholio]

The damage that Obama and his rhetoric have done to our underlying tax base is massive.

It's disturbing that people actually believe and regurgitate this garbage.

If you keep avoiding specifics, you need no facts and have nothing to defend. Simple jabs with nothing behind it. I see the ploy, but it doesn't accomplish much, does it?

if you want to talk taxes let's throw some facts into it:

-Tax revenue as % of GDP is 14% this year vs historical 17-20% from the mid 50's through Clinton and Bush.

-400 people in this country have more wealth than 50% of the population combined.

-Average income for the bottom 90% is $31k.

-Average income for the top one hundredth of 1 percent is $27 million/yr.

-From 1979 to 2007, the bottom 80% lost share of American wealth, while the top 20% gained 30% of the wealth, and the top 1% increased their share 120%.

-Before Reagan, the top tax brackets from the 1930s forward was in the 70% to 90% range, now its 35% and some bozos call Obama a socialist for proposing 39%. that would make every republican President from Hoover forward a socialist as well, except Reagan.

-Reagan increased taxes too, he just preferred to do it to middle class people. Even Reagan realized he created too much debt by his tax cuts, something that todays radical right will never acknowledge.

There, now we have some facts to discuss!

 

[TableFun]

so who's alter is headholio?