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Twenty Things We've Learned Nearly A Year after 9/11

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Twenty Things We've Learned
Nearly A Year After 911
By Bernard Weiner
8-2-2


Dave Letterman and his LIST OF TEN writers would be in awe. The list of ten yields to the list of TWENTY. CURIOUS GEORGE has been BUSY!

As we approach the first anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, it might be useful to see how far an ordinary citizen's knowledge has progressed one year on. So here, in the way of a summing-up, based on journalistic documentation, is a list of things we Americans have learned since last September -- some of which might prove useful in the run-up to the November elections.

1. We've learned that Bush & Co.'s "war on terrorism" has morphed from finding and destroying those responsible for the 9/11 mass-murders (15 SAUDIS) to a worldwide campaign to install a Pax Americana, by force if necessary. In other words, neo-imperialism, reminiscent in many ways of the old Roman Empire or, closer to our own time, the British Empire.

2. We've learned that Bush & Co. has no desire to rethink any of its policies abroad, the same policies that isolate it and that generate hatred, suspicion and terrorism in so many regions of the globe. Rather than reconsider its policies, or try to accomplish its ends through diplomacy and alliances and cultural/economic initiatives, in its arrogance it continues to bully and threaten others, insult its European and other allies, disregard international treaties and courts, engage in unilateral actions without regard to the national interests of others, and, in general, simply throw its massive weight around. The prevailing attitude seems to be: We are the one Superpower, get used to bending to our will.

3. We've learned that Bush's national-security leadership was alerted months ahead of 9/11 (and, it has admitted, no later than August 6) that a major air attack from al-Qaida was in the works, along with the likely targets, but did nothing to try to prevent those attacks or warn anyone about them. Caught in their own lies, they blame "the system," especially elements in the FBI, for "not connecting the dots." More than 3000 Americans died as a result of this malfeasance.

4. We've learned that plans already were in the works prior to 9/11 for the evisceration of Constitutional guarantees of due process of law. The White House hustled the so-called USA PATRIOT Act through a frightened Congress in a patriotic blur, just a few days after the attacks, with few, if any, of the legislators having had time to read the final version.

5. We've learned that prior to September 11, the Bush Administration was negotiating with the Taliban about a pipeline desired by a U.S.-led energy consortium that would cross through Afghanistan. When the Taliban balked, the U.S. negotiators told them they either could accept a "carpet of gold" or face a "carpet of bombs." The Taliban backed away from the deal and refused to hand over Osama bin Laden; shortly after the terror attacks of 9/11, the U.S. began bombing in Afghanistan. The devotion of BUSH to OIL/GAS/ENERGY/ENRON type agendas are not laudible.

6. We've learned that now with the Taliban having been overthrown, and a U.S.-friendly regime installed in Kabul, the pipeline project is back on track, designed to carry energy supplies across Afghanistan from the Caspian Sea area to near India. Hamid Karzai, the new leader of Afghanistan, formerly was a consultant on the payroll of the pipeline folks; likewise, the new U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan.

7. We've learned that Bush & Co.'s Homeland Security Act includes programs that bear an amazing resemblance to totalitarian programs from the fascis/communist end of the spectrum: getting the military (restricted heretofore to activity outside the U.S.) involved in domestic policing, signing up neighborhood and block snoops to work for the central government, investigating what books citizens are checking out and buying, denouncing those deemed insufficiently patriotic or suspicious because of their views, etc. Remind you of Stalin's Russia, Castro's Cuba, Hitler's Third Reich, the Stasi of East Germany? (There also are prototypes of patriotic youth leagues being tried out in cities, which could become a national program.) A kind of martial-law coming to a neighborhood near you. (Not odd as The Gehlen Org spawned Bush way back when, in his early OSS days, that is NAZI spies brought here to work in CIA) Once a Nazi always a Nazi, I guess.

8. We've learned that Ashcroft/Bush are shredding Constitutional due-process guarantees in their move toward total control: already they have compromised attorney-client privilege, removed habeus corpus protections, locked up folks with no charges, secreted citizens at military installations which puts them out of reach of the judicial system, violated privacy in rifling through personal telephone and email communications, etc. etc. When the ambiguously-worded PATRIOT Act was first brought up, Ashcroft and Bush told us not to worry, promising that these rules would affect only non-citizens. Since that time, American citizens have been handled in similar fashion. Coming to a neighborhood near you.

9. We've learned much about the dangers of religious fundamentalism in Islam, but we've also learned about dangers posed by our own religious fundamentalists -- eager for a Christian theocratic society, symbolized most recently by a Secret Service agent scrawling on a Muslim suspect's refrigerator "Islam Is Evil, Christ Is King" -- and the extraordinary power they wield within the Bush Administration, represented most openly by John Ashcroft, who in frame-of-mind resembles a Taliban mullah.

10. We've learned that the FBI, focusing now on foreign terrorists, doesn't seem energized with the same zeal to catch domestic terrorists, such as abortion-clinic arsonists -- and especially the anthrax-dispenser. Though the FBI seems to know that the anthrax villain probably worked at a government bio-lab, nobody has been arrested, or even targeted as a prime suspect. (THEY TELL US that after going thru his trash bin, no powder was found, So all bets AND THE GUY...are off the hook,) It may not be likely, but the unsaid is finally being asked: Could this dangerous terrorist actually be working for the government? HUH? OUR GOV kill a Nat'l Enquirer reporter who'd written up the BUSH gals as doped up trash? NAHHHHHHHHHHHHH. The White house Used as a personal vendetta? C'mon!

11. We've learned that the HardRight of the Republican Party has taken control -- of the House leadership, of the Supreme Court, of the White House, of much of the conglomerate-owned media -- and has demonstrated its willingness to do nearly anything to maintain that power. (Only the courageous defection of Sen. Jim Jeffords from GOP ranks is standing in the way of HardRight total control of all three branches of government.) More and more truly objectionable HardRight judges are being nominated by Bush in an e ffort to stack the judiciary for decades to come. This by a man who lost the election by more than half-a-million votes, coming into his White House residency, with no popular mandate, only because his supporters on the Supreme Court installed him there.

12. We've learned that to break the momentum of the HardRight, all energy for the upcoming November elections (less than 90 days away, let us not forget) must be expended in electing Democrat candidates and defeating Republican ones. The objective conditions are just not ripe yet for anything more than trying to move the country back toward the middle of the political spectrum. We progressives more in tune with the Greens (Green candidates are being supported secretly in many states by the Republicans, to try to defeat Democrats) will have to wait. The difference between Democrats and Republicans may seem small to Greens and others, but, as we've learned in a painful way under Bush&Co., that difference is immense when it comes to foreign and domestic policy and its actual effects on real people, here and abroad.

13. We've learned that Cheney is up to his ears in Halliburton irregularities, and may well be liable for indictment for participating in financial fraud. In addition, we've learned that Cheney, who was the head of the task force that came up with a corporate-friendly rather than a consumer-friendly energy policy, has refused to turn over to Congress the requested documents that will reveal how that policy was arrived at and which industry leaders (other than Enron's Kenny Boy) helped shape it.

14. We've learned that Bush knew in advance, as a member of the Harken Audit Committee, that Harken Oil was going to release negative financial news, and he was a true insider, who knew that his Poppa's war on IRAQ (like the next week), would cancel the Harken Drilling contracts. Curious George and sold his shares before that, reaping a fortune. He may be liable for indictment for insider-trading and other Harken irregularities. (Even if Bush and Cheney are not indicted, they are the last people on earth who should be speaking about corruption in the corporate financial world, as these hypocrites benefitted from that very corrupt system. As did most of Bush's corporate-derived cabinet.)

15. We've learned that Bush & Co. were mightily opposed to any reform of corporate financial reporting, but when more and more companies were caught in such corrupt practices and the mood of the country shifted -- mainly because so many folks, especially seniors, lost huge chunks of their pensions and portfolio holdings when the Stock Market tanked as a result of investors' losing confidence in the numbers provided by corporations -- they jumped on the bandwagon and pretended they were reformers all along. In the background, they are trying to help their corporate supporters water down, and otherwise get around, the new rules. To that end, Bush&Co. have appointed Harvey Pitt and Larry Thompson, two tainted corporate types, to head up the "investigations" of corporate wrongdoing. Break out the whitewash and let the FOXES paint the bloody HENHOUSE!

16. We've learned that Bush & Co., having placed its chips on Ariel Sharon, continues to have no real desire for a just peace in the Middle East. All it wants is for the area to be quiet and controlled (thus giving carte blanche to the Israeli Army's police-state occupation and oppression), so that it can continue its plans for overthrowing Saddam Hussein in Iraq. And, of course, there has been no declaration of a State of War by the Congress, neither against Afghanistan nor against Iraq, and no real debate about the wisdom of a war against Saddam -- even when the top brass at the Pentagon and in Great Britain have expressed their opposition to such military adventurism.

17. We've learned that there will be no peace now in the Middle East because the U.S. is not fully engaged in the peace process, also because neither extreme in the area wants peace: Sharon thrives on war and brutality, Hamas needs Sharon's bloody policies to justify its campaign of terror. There are signs that moderate Palestinians finally are starting to speak out in favor of a peaceful solution, and there are plenty of land-for-peace Israelis (supported by many liberal Jews in the U.S.), so the outlines of a peace are out there. But until the U.S. and U.N. make the commitment to separate the warring extremists and arrange an equitable treaty both Israel and the Palestinians can live with -- secure borders for Israel (and an end to suicide bombing), a viable state for the Palestinians, abandoning of the settlements by Israel, reparations for Palestinians who lost their homes and property -- there will be only more bloodshed. And more fertile ground for new generations of terrorists, in the Middle East and elsewhere in the Islamic world.

18. We've learned that Bush & Co. has been a total disaster for the environment, in every way: from reneging on its campaign promise to cut carbon-dioxide and other greenhouse emissions, to backing away from higher fuel-efficiency in cars (we could cut our dependence on foreign oil 20% just by increasing fuel efficiency by 5%), to giving breaks to corporate polluters all across the country, to permitting increased arsenic levels in the water, thumbing nose at Kyoto conference, etc. etc.

19. We've learned that Secretary of State Colin Powell -- who sees the world in something other than simplistic black-and-white, us-versus-them dichotomies -- is a man imprisoned in the Bush Cabinet, forced to alter his principled opinions in the service of Bush & Co.'s stupidly aggressive and ultimately self-defeating foreign policies. Powell, a moderate conservative, looks like a raving progressive when measured against his masters. He should resign but probably won't. That would take NIXONIAN shame which he has none of, having an IQ of 80

20. We've learned that the tax-cuts provided to the most wealthy are not only payoffs to the corporate sector that provides support for Bush & Co. By locking in those tax cuts for ten years (and with humongous chunks of the budget spent on the "war on terrorism"), Bush & Co. have ensured that innumerable social programs that aid the less well-off will be cut or eliminated. In short, a rollback of New Deal/Great Society programs, so hated by the HardRight. (The HardRight movement to detach prescription drugs for seniors fr om the Medicare program, and, especially, to privatize Social Security -- even in the face of recent stock-market disasters -- is part of this same desire.)

Even after all the above shorthand summaries, no doubt I'm leaving out lots of Bush & Co. dirt, but this list can provide a starting point, and a handy compilation of enough low and high crimes and misdemeanors to warrant their removal from power, either through the ballot box or by resignation or impeachment.

Finally, as we enter August, we know that one of two things will happen in the summer-doldrums, with the Congress on vacation: Either Bush & Co. will start its Iraq war and carry out more under-the-radar attacks on important American social programs, or the media, bereft of their usual Beltway stories, will use the down time to engage in hard-hitting investigative reporting that will reveal in even more stark relief the machinations of Bush & Co. illegalities and other scandalous behavior. But, given the corporate nature of our corporate-owned media, don't count on it. Instead, we'll probably be flooded with this summer's Condit-like sex scandal. ___

Bernard Weiner, Ph.D., has taught American politics and international relations at Western Washington University and San Diego State University; he was with the San Francisco Chronicle for nearly 20 years.
 
Nice copy and paste of a bunch of leftist bullshit. Look at where Dr. Weiner is from. If you are posting this because you really do believe it, I'll gladly refute it point by point, but be prepared to argue each one. Otherwise, its just trolling.
 
I enjoyed that article, but because you never know someone's motives I would be interested in hearing someone refute it.
 
1-6. I truly believe

7. The comparison to NAZI's is a little extreme

8. Absolutely true

9-10. I really don't know but I hate Ashcroft

11-18. Bush is pro-buisness all the way...He might as well and just come out and say "Fuck the environment". Look what he did with the Superfund program.

19. Colin Powell, who I like, is the only voice of reason in the administration.

20. We didn't need a tax cut
 
11 & 12 cuts his credibility with me, but I'm not seeing the rest of this article as being all that unbelievable.....sounds pretty much like a compilation of facts to me.
 
Hangfire said:
Nice copy and paste of a bunch of leftist bullshit. Look at where Dr. Weiner is from. If you are posting this because you really do believe it, I'll gladly refute it point by point, but be prepared to argue each one. Otherwise, its just trolling.

Ok. Begin your assault.
 
Hangfire said:
Nice copy and paste of a bunch of leftist bullshit. Look at where Dr. Weiner is from. If you are posting this because you really do believe it, I'll gladly refute it point by point, but be prepared to argue each one. Otherwise, its just trolling.

:clock:
 
aurelius said:


I think they said the same thing about Darwin´s Origin of Species.

Aurelius, you know that that is not a solid argument. The same thing has been said about many things. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. But from what I've seen, the truth usually lies somewhere in between the two extremes. Of course the US has some alterior motives, just as any country does; we don't live in a Dick and Jane world. But I highly doubt that Dr. Weiner is right on the money.
 
casavant said:


Aurelius, you know that that is not a solid argument. The same thing has been said about many things. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. But from what I've seen, the truth usually lies somewhere in between the two extremes. Of course the US has some alterior motives, just as any country does; we don't live in a Dick and Jane world. But I highly doubt that Dr. Weiner is right on the money.

As solid as yours, which isn´t very solid. Maybe you could say specifically is extreme in the article?
 
I agree the way the list reads is a bit extreem left,
but nearly all the points are based in at least an element of truth.
The bottom line for me is Bush campaigned on a platform of "compassionate conservative moderate".
The above list, even if toned down, comes off neither copassionate nor moderate.
Bush has turned out to be alarmingly more right wing than even his detractors believed during the last election, and certainly more right wing than was sold to the electorate.
 
aurelius said:


As solid as yours, which isn´t very solid. Maybe you could say specifically is extreme in the article?

LOL. I don't know if I have an "argument" here. It's a leftist article with extremist undertones. That's the vibe I get. I don't feel like debating this post, so you win by default, I suppose. Take 'er easy.
 
casavant said:


LOL. I don't know if I have an "argument" here. It's a leftist article with extremist undertones. That's the vibe I get. I don't feel like debating this post, so you win by default, I suppose. Take 'er easy.

I thought the same thing. Just wondering what you thought.
 
aurelius said:


I thought the same thing. Just wondering what you thought.

I like to debate a lot of things, but politics just isn't my forte. I suppose I just don't feel passionate enough about it. I get fed up with the whole dem/repub. nitpicking bullshit. I can see points on both sides some of the time, but never points on one side all of the time.
 
All I can say is that most, if not all of the above statements have, in fact happened.

What no one, not even Dr. Weiner, can say is that all of these things have been carried out solely on President Bush's agenda. I can say with confidence that the amount of support that many of these issues received from Democrats is astonishing. If many of these things weren't helped along by some of Washington's figurehead Democrats, we all know good and well that they wouldn't have happened.

While this article preaches against extreme rightism, it comes from an extreme leftist point of view. Whether it's right or wrong, I've always discredited "pot-calling-the-kettle-black-arguments."
You can't preach against extremism if you're an extremist yourself.
 
I clicked on this thread because I thought it would have some interesting and meaningful reading.

I was wrong, just another republican bashing thread that means nothing. I could sit here and bash democrats all day too, they are both full of flaws so whats the point.
 
Natymike said:
I clicked on this thread because I thought it would have some interesting and meaningful reading.

I was wrong, just another republican bashing thread that means nothing. I could sit here and bash democrats all day too, they are both full of flaws so whats the point.

"What foolishness to be surprised by anything in this life!"

-Marcus Aurelius
 
Hmmmm........I thought there would be some debate, and such about some of these facts. What happened? The lame-ass attempt to dismiss it as extremist propaganda is so hypocritical.

I saw at least 4 or 5 that were facts, yet none of the neo-conservs said a word.

You guys will defend your party's people, but never address the actual facts. And that goes for both parties, at least the dems will attempt to deal with the facts. repubs change the subject.

:rolleyes:
 
LMAO gymnpoppa I was about to post the same thing.... instead of even attacking one of the factual points in this article you get these comments like "ohh uhh this is just leftist bullshit" and now that we've said this the next excuse will be "this is so dumb it's not even worth my time to pick it apart." Aurelius cracks me up... "ok, begin your assault." hahaha
 
gymnpoppa said:
Hmmmm........I thought there would be some debate, and such about some of these facts. What happened? The lame-ass attempt to dismiss it as extremist propaganda is so hypocritical.

I saw at least 4 or 5 that were facts, yet none of the neo-conservs said a word.

You guys will defend your party's people, but never address the actual facts. And that goes for both parties, at least the dems will attempt to deal with the facts. repubs change the subject.

:rolleyes:

Well, I have admitted that several of those assertions presented were indeed facts. What I also said is that there was much involvement by leading democrats on many of these things.
 
bwahaahah "why dont you cry about it?" Not only can you guys not properly attack the post, but you can't defend yourselves for not properly attacking the post, so you come back with "why dont you cry about it?" No WONDER people like bush get voted in, you're all idiots! haha
 
BeefyBull said:
Why dont you cry about it, Gymnpoppa?

Like it was mentioned, no debate, no intelligent posts, just pussy-ass why don't I cry about it?

Is that the best you can do?

and bigguns......you're right. Where is p0ink? ttlpkg? huntmaster?

If it's all bullshit, then post your evidence of something different.

I notice when p0ink posted a thread on leftists something, you can contribute to nonsensical, immature crap, but the best you can do is cry about it? :rolleyes:
 
I will give it a try, although this articlewas a smelly smelly turd that I didn't want to respond to.




1. We've learned that Bush & Co.'s "war on terrorism" has morphed from finding and destroying those responsible for the 9/11 mass-murders (15 SAUDIS) to a worldwide campaign to install a Pax Americana, by force if necessary. In other words, neo-imperialism, reminiscent in many ways of the old Roman Empire or, closer to our own time, the British Empire.

Maybe a bit premature. Someone in DC has been speaking out against the Saudis and that country is in a lot of internal trouble (30% unemployment, falling per capita income, etc.) The first 6 months after the king's death will be telling, as to what our course of action will be.


2. We've learned that Bush & Co. has no desire to rethink any of its policies abroad, the same policies that isolate it and that generate hatred, suspicion and terrorism in so many regions of the globe. Rather than reconsider its policies, or try to accomplish its ends through diplomacy and alliances and cultural/economic initiatives, in its arrogance it continues to bully and threaten others, insult its European and other allies, disregard international treaties and courts, engage in unilateral actions without regard to the national interests of others, and, in general, simply throw its massive weight around. The prevailing attitude seems to be: We are the one Superpower, get used to bending to our will.

If author is questioning the Middle East policies, teh Bush policiies are a departure from the Clinton / Barak plan, which failed also. As 9/11 was the anniverary of a Camp David accords, one has to wonder exactly what policy the author advocates.

We are the one superpower. Beter we throw our weight around than let nations with much narrower interests dictate our behavior.


3. We've learned that Bush's national-security leadership was alerted months ahead of 9/11 (and, it has admitted, no later than August 6) that a major air attack from al-Qaida was in the works, along with the likely targets, but did nothing to try to prevent those attacks or warn anyone about them. Caught in their own lies, they blame "the system," especially elements in the FBI, for "not connecting the dots." More than 3000 Americans died as a result of this malfeasance.

There was no malfeasance. Incompetence, yes, and poor communciation between overly territorial chiefs at the CIA, FBI and others.

Israeli intelligence indicated to US intelligence agencies that "something big involving planes was planned for the fall". What happened that day could noit have been foreseen and was not by the government. This should spur reforms in government agencies, not politically motivated finger pointing.



4. We've learned that plans already were in the works prior to 9/11 for the evisceration of Constitutional guarantees of due process of law. The White House hustled the so-called USA PATRIOT Act through a frightened Congress in a patriotic blur, just a few days after the attacks, with few, if any, of the legislators having had time to read the final version.

I don't like Ashcroft or teh Patriot Act. Both of them need to go.


5. We've learned that prior to September 11, the Bush Administration was negotiating with the Taliban about a pipeline desired by a U.S.-led energy consortium that would cross through Afghanistan. When the Taliban balked, the U.S. negotiators told them they either could accept a "carpet of gold" or face a "carpet of bombs." The Taliban backed away from the deal and refused to hand over Osama bin Laden; shortly after the terror attacks of 9/11, the U.S. began bombing in Afghanistan. The devotion of BUSH to OIL/GAS/ENERGY/ENRON type agendas are not laudible.

would like to see where the carpet line came from. Regardless, if one of the conditions for arranging the pipleine was to hand over Osama, then #3 above is invalid. We started bombing after the atack, so the links here seem to be tenuous at best.


6. We've learned that now with the Taliban having been overthrown, and a U.S.-friendly regime installed in Kabul, the pipeline project is back on track, designed to carry energy supplies across Afghanistan from the Caspian Sea area to near India. Hamid Karzai, the new leader of Afghanistan, formerly was a consultant on the payroll of the pipeline folks; likewise, the new U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan.

who is building the pipeline?


7. We've learned that Bush & Co.'s Homeland Security Act includes programs that bear an amazing resemblance to totalitarian programs from the fascis/communist end of the spectrum: getting the military (restricted heretofore to activity outside the U.S.) involved in domestic policing, signing up neighborhood and block snoops to work for the central government, investigating what books citizens are checking out and buying, denouncing those deemed insufficiently patriotic or suspicious because of their views, etc. Remind you of Stalin's Russia, Castro's Cuba, Hitler's Third Reich, the Stasi of East Germany? (There also are prototypes of patriotic youth leagues being tried out in cities, which could become a national program.) A kind of martial-law coming to a neighborhood near you. (Not odd as The Gehlen Org spawned Bush way back when, in his early OSS days, that is NAZI spies brought here to work in CIA) Once a Nazi always a Nazi, I guess.

Melodrama. American citizens ned to be a little bit vigilant of what is happeneing and get pissed off about it / talk to their legislators, so that bullshit like "Operation Tips" never comes to pass. History will repeat itself if we let it . Ashcroft still sucks.

Communication was restricted in those regimes. No internet, etc.



8. We've learned that Ashcroft/Bush are shredding Constitutional due-process guarantees in their move toward total control: already they have compromised attorney-client privilege, removed habeus corpus protections, locked up folks with no charges, secreted citizens at military installations which puts them out of reach of the judicial system, violated privacy in rifling through personal telephone and email communications, etc. etc. When the ambiguously-worded PATRIOT Act was first brought up, Ashcroft and Bush told us not to worry, promising that these rules would affect only non-citizens. Since that time, American citizens have been handled in similar fashion. Coming to a neighborhood near you.

The horse is dead. Stop beating it. See #7 above.



9. We've learned much about the dangers of religious fundamentalism in Islam, but we've also learned about dangers posed by our own religious fundamentalists -- eager for a Christian theocratic society, symbolized most recently by a Secret Service agent scrawling on a Muslim suspect's refrigerator "Islam Is Evil, Christ Is King" -- and the extraordinary power they wield within the Bush Administration, represented most openly by John Ashcroft, who in frame-of-mind resembles a Taliban mullah.

Apparently some are unwilling to stop beating the horse. Interestingly, Joe Lieberman pretty much hijacked God and morality when he ran for VP, and Gore had his daughter at the Democratic convention talking about church. everyone tires to corner the market on morality to give themselves credibility, when their message is weak. Bush is likewise guilty.


10. We've learned that the FBI, focusing now on foreign terrorists, doesn't seem energized with the same zeal to catch domestic terrorists, such as abortion-clinic arsonists -- and especially the anthrax-dispenser. Though the FBI seems to know that the anthrax villain probably worked at a government bio-lab, nobody has been arrested, or even targeted as a prime suspect. (THEY TELL US that after going thru his trash bin, no powder was found, So all bets AND THE GUY...are off the hook,) It may not be likely, but the unsaid is finally being asked: Could this dangerous terrorist actually be working for the government? HUH? OUR GOV kill a Nat'l Enquirer reporter who'd written up the BUSH gals as doped up trash? NAHHHHHHHHHHHHH. The White house Used as a personal vendetta? C'mon!

Not exactly sure what teh point is here. who killed Vince Foster?



11. We've learned that the HardRight of the Republican Party has taken control -- of the House leadership, of the Supreme Court, of the White House, of much of the conglomerate-owned media -- and has demonstrated its willingness to do nearly anything to maintain that power. (Only the courageous defection of Sen. Jim Jeffords from GOP ranks is standing in the way of HardRight total control of all three branches of government.) More and more truly objectionable HardRight judges are being nominated by Bush in an e ffort to stack the judiciary for decades to come. This by a man who lost the election by more than half-a-million votes, coming into his White House residency, with no popular mandate, only because his supporters on the Supreme Court installed him there.

Saying HardRight is propaganda which discredits the article. Note that it will be repeated over and over for teh remanider of the piece. Propaganda is the art of reducing something to the simplest messsage possible, and saying it over and over.

Bush is not the first president to get fewer popular votes and win the election. Saying he lost the election is like saying the team with more hits won the baseball game, even if they had fewer runs.

Media control? Like where?


12. We've learned that to break the momentum of the HardRight, all energy for the upcoming November elections (less than 90 days away, let us not forget) must be expended in electing Democrat candidates and defeating Republican ones. The objective conditions are just not ripe yet for anything more than trying to move the country back toward the middle of the political spectrum. We progressives more in tune with the Greens (Green candidates are being supported secretly in many states by the Republicans, to try to defeat Democrats) will have to wait. The difference between Democrats and Republicans may seem small to Greens and others, but, as we've learned in a painful way under Bush&Co., that difference is immense when it comes to foreign and domestic policy and its actual effects on real people, here and abroad.


No really, the Democrats can save us. Propaganda part 6. This is the failing of teh two party system....there is always someone to dump on...and then they come back to power and get criticized by the other guy for being imperfect. More parties is a real solution


13. We've learned that Cheney is up to his ears in Halliburton irregularities, and may well be liable for indictment for participating in financial fraud. In addition, we've learned that Cheney, who was the head of the task force that came up with a corporate-friendly rather than a consumer-friendly energy policy, has refused to turn over to Congress the requested documents that will reveal how that policy was arrived at and which industry leaders (other than Enron's Kenny Boy) helped shape it.

If charges are brought againt Cheney this will be a conversation worth having. Otherwise, it;s just hype and emotional blabbering. enron? You mean Lieberman's biggest donor? See, I can do that too.


14. We've learned that Bush knew in advance, as a member of the Harken Audit Committee, that Harken Oil was going to release negative financial news, and he was a true insider, who knew that his Poppa's war on IRAQ (like the next week), would cancel the Harken Drilling contracts. Curious George and sold his shares before that, reaping a fortune. He may be liable for indictment for insider-trading and other Harken irregularities. (Even if Bush and Cheney are not indicted, they are the last people on earth who should be speaking about corruption in the corporate financial world, as these hypocrites benefitted from that very corrupt system. As did most of Bush's corporate-derived cabinet.)

He was cleared by the SEC a long time ago. Want to talk about his 1976 DUI?


15. We've learned that Bush & Co. were mightily opposed to any reform of corporate financial reporting, but when more and more companies were caught in such corrupt practices and the mood of the country shifted -- mainly because so many folks, especially seniors, lost huge chunks of their pensions and portfolio holdings when the Stock Market tanked as a result of investors' losing confidence in the numbers provided by corporations -- they jumped on the bandwagon and pretended they were reformers all along. In the background, they are trying to help their corporate supporters water down, and otherwise get around, the new rules. To that end, Bush&Co. have appointed Harvey Pitt and Larry Thompson, two tainted corporate types, to head up the "investigations" of corporate wrongdoing. Break out the whitewash and let the FOXES paint the bloody HENHOUSE!

There are no guanrantees in the stock market. I think Bush is full of shit on the corporate responsibi9lity thing, and not much will change. Do you really believe all of this bogus accounting took place starting Jan 2001?

Where were the last SEC types when it was happeneing? Lastly, who should investigate corporate wrong - doing? Corporate types? How about baseball coaches? This paragraph is another tired attempt to link Bush and the word "corporate" with few credible charges being made



16. We've learned that Bush & Co., having placed its chips on Ariel Sharon, continues to have no real desire for a just peace in the Middle East. All it wants is for the area to be quiet and controlled (thus giving carte blanche to the Israeli Army's police-state occupation and oppression), so that it can continue its plans for overthrowing Saddam Hussein in Iraq. And, of course, there has been no declaration of a State of War by the Congress, neither against Afghanistan nor against Iraq, and no real debate about the wisdom of a war against Saddam -- even when the top brass at the Pentagon and in Great Britain have expressed their opposition to such military adventurism.

Just today I saw there was considerable debate about an invasion of Iraq. We didn;t declare war in Viet Nam either, or in 1991 against Iraq.


17. We've learned that there will be no peace now in the Middle East because the U.S. is not fully engaged in the peace process, also because neither extreme in the area wants peace: Sharon thrives on war and brutality, Hamas needs Sharon's bloody policies to justify its campaign of terror. There are signs that moderate Palestinians finally are starting to speak out in favor of a peaceful solution, and there are plenty of land-for-peace Israelis (supported by many liberal Jews in the U.S.), so the outlines of a peace are out there. But until the U.S. and U.N. make the commitment to separate the warring extremists and arrange an equitable treaty both Israel and the Palestinians can live with -- secure borders for Israel (and an end to suicide bombing), a viable state for the Palestinians, abandoning of the settlements by Israel, reparations for Palestinians who lost their homes and property -- there will be only more bloodshed. And more fertile ground for new generations of terrorists, in the Middle East and elsewhere in the Islamic world.

Good thing this guy has the solution to a 54 year problem whichhas started 4 wars. If only it were that easy.



18. We've learned that Bush & Co. has been a total disaster for the environment, in every way: from reneging on its campaign promise to cut carbon-dioxide and other greenhouse emissions, to backing away from higher fuel-efficiency in cars (we could cut our dependence on foreign oil 20% just by increasing fuel efficiency by 5%), to giving breaks to corporate polluters all across the country, to permitting increased arsenic levels in the water, thumbing nose at Kyoto conference, etc. etc.

Kyoto = stupid. Know what a "sink" is, in Kyoto terms? Apparently no one else does either. This guy acts as if none of these problems are interrelated or no one would be adversely effected by massive policy shifts.

People don't want more efficient cars...they want SUV's and trucks. When people call for more efficient cars, companies will build them. Plese don't blame GWBush for me driving a Range Rover.



19. We've learned that Secretary of State Colin Powell -- who sees the world in something other than simplistic black-and-white, us-versus-them dichotomies -- is a man imprisoned in the Bush Cabinet, forced to alter his principled opinions in the service of Bush & Co.'s stupidly aggressive and ultimately self-defeating foreign policies. Powell, a moderate conservative, looks like a raving progressive when measured against his masters. He should resign but probably won't. That would take NIXONIAN shame which he has none of, having an IQ of 80

Powell's IQ? He rose to chairman of the JCS with an IQ just above retarded? Hard to believe. Even David Hackworth, a Powell critic, admits that Powell is intelligent and was a capable administrative leader.

Any lefty needs to slam Powell, though, because as a black republican who grew up poor in NY city, he is going to eat into the democratic base if he runs for Prez, cause real problems for their candidate.



20. We've learned that the tax-cuts provided to the most wealthy are not only payoffs to the corporate sector that provides support for Bush & Co. By locking in those tax cuts for ten years (and with humongous chunks of the budget spent on the "war on terrorism"), Bush & Co. have ensured that innumerable social programs that aid the less well-off will be cut or eliminated. In short, a rollback of New Deal/Great Society programs, so hated by the HardRight. (The HardRight movement to detach prescription drugs for seniors fr om the Medicare program, and, especially, to privatize Social Security -- even in the face of recent stock-market disasters -- is part of this same desire.)

The New Deal was 70 years ago. It;s an Old Deal now, outdated for today's population. Let it go. Social Secuirty costs taxpayers $500B a year - we are puling the kids out of college to give Grandma $1000 a month. This will bankrupt us if something is not done.

I am all typed out. Typical tripe. Wish politics was more intelectual than this name calling and blame game shit, but it isn't, so everyone line up and vote for a loser in 2004, whoever you pick.
 
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I just got a classic "fuck you" karma from someone named Johnboy regarding my desire to find out why the article is just a bunch of leftist bullshit.

That´s fine. Maybe you could help me out with my question, however.
 
aurelius said:
I just got a classic "fuck you" karma from someone named Johnboy regarding my desire to find out why the article is just a bunch of leftist bullshit.

That´s fine. Maybe you could help me out with my question, however.

There are assholes everywhere. Ignore it.

I will check out that book though.
 
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