turinabol

[cipherking]

didnt use anything else. i was 185-188lbs depending on morning or night. after that i was 210. that was 6 years ago and i weigh 205 now. i lost about 8 lbs after pct. so i guess 8 lbs was water. its was my first cycle and i had been lifting since i was 13 natty so i had a good base. thats why i say u dont have to use 500mg for a first cycle. start small and see how it works for u then tune.

 

[hyp1]

didnt use anything else. i was 185-188lbs depending on morning or night. after that i was 210. that was 6 years ago and i weigh 205 now. i lost about 8 lbs after PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . so i guess 8 lbs was water. its was my first cycle and i had been lifting since i was 13 natty so i had a good base. thats why i say u dont have to use 500mg for a first cycle. start small and see how it works for u then tune.

you could have used 250mgs of test and used an anti estrogen without 'blowing up' as you call it with water retention...all that would have taken is a little research before hand.I don't recommend that anyone start out @ 500mgs of test,they should try 250 to begin with and see how their body responds.

it seems as if you're frightened by test now........lol

 

[cipherking]

yeah back then i didnt know much about aas. had a friend that knew something about it. if i could get some good pharm grade primo i would be hitting it right now. i know this might sound weird and feel free to laugh and critize but i dont want to take something that my body already makes. i have plenty of test in my system. im only 28 so ill wait another 10 years before thinking about taking test again.

 

[hyp1]

yeah back then i didnt know much about anabolic androgenic steroids. had a friend that knew something about it. if i could get some good pharm grade Primobolan - methenolone - i would be hitting it right now. i know this might sound weird and feel free to laugh and critize but i dont want to take something that my body already makes. i have plenty of test in my system. im only 28 so ill wait another 10 years before thinking about taking test again.

hate to break the news but steroids in general mimic the effects of testosterone in general,by increasing nitrogen retention and protein synthesis.your natural testosterone production peaks in your early 20's and it's a downward spiral from there @28 years old you're no longer a 'spring chicken' lol and chances are your natural testosterone production is a lot less than it was when you were 21.

test is usually used as a base in any cycle and for damn good reason.......personally I think you're terrified of pins and injections but that's just my opinion.

 

[cipherking]

well my tattoo artist my not agree with u. i will admit giving my self a shot is not fun. i usally let my buddy hit me. i also did a winny cycle which was ed injections. i didnt like it but put up with it for 6 weeks. i cant argue with u about test not being as it was in my early 20's but im a hellava lot more hornier now then i was then. plus im making good gains without it. and not all steroids mimic test. i could be wrong but if they did then i wouldnt see the need for so many different compounds. esters yeah but thats a different argument.