Turanabol

[willber]

OK so i have 200 Brit ragon Turanabol, 24 Clomid and 30 Nolva on the way. Was gonna run 40 - 50 Mg Tbol a day for 6 weeks followed by the best PCT i can muster from the above.

There is one thing that i really dont understnad. A lot of people seem to sa that oral only cycle yield unmaintainable gains. Now if most of your gains are water, then sure you will lose that post cycle. But if you gain 10 Lbs lean mass, i see no reason why you would lose that any more easily than you would if you gained the same mass on a test cycle - after all muscle is muscle. I'm sure that the general feeling with regards to oral only cycles being rubbish is based upon the loss of water post cycle rather than the loss of Lean muscle.

What do you guys think???

 

[ruggermu]

Why oral only?

 

[PatBateman3]

is this considered a pretty good dose for the OT, 40-50mg ed???

 

[fergie]

is this considered a pretty good dose for the OT, 40-50mg ed???

thats a good dose, buy you need an injectable with it.

 

[willber]

Here we go - everyone follows the 'You need an injectable', and to an extent so do i - in terms of the mass you will gain. My first cycle was 500 Mg test per week for 6 weeks and i gained 24 Lbs. However, that was two years ago and now that i'm back in the gym i dont wanna go straight in with injections -not that i mind them. This cycle is to give me a little kick up the arse. I work like a dog in the gym and i'm gaining well without juice, but i want to run this cycle to get things moving a little quicker.

This post is concerend with the perception that any gains that are achieved on an oral only cycle will be lost 2 months post cycle. Now, if the weight and strength gains that were achienved on cycle were due to water, then i can understand that you would lose it post cycle. However, say you gain 10 Lbs of lean muscle on an oral only cycle compared to 14 lbs you may gain on a test cycle. Now although the gains are lower with the oral cycle, why do people have this perception that the 10 Lbs from the oral cycle will be lost more easily than the 14 lbs gained from a test cycle. I just cant see the science or the logic behind it.

Hope this is clear, its twenty to one here and i'm knackered.

Will

 

[Bruce]

well firstly if you aren't gonna listen to fergie, i don't think i can help you. he knows that drug well and i am going to use it as well with injectable 12 weeks of eq, maybe test. injectables are much more effective its proven. orals are nice to help out, but unless you are taking anavar at a high dose to get some vascularity and shreddedness, than you don't do an oral only. plus tbol is known for being effective for only about 4 weeks, so you gonna do 4 weeker, or more, and get bad results not to mention ruining your liver.

 

[fergie]

You will not loose much of your gains from T-Bol since there is no water retention but it is only effective for about 4 weeks which is a pritty short cycle. It will work on its own but test would make it much better as test always does.

 

[stoneriver]

Thats a good dose for oralT and you WILL make gains with it and you WILL keep them. Probably without even using PCT.

it worked for me with oralT.

But... I will not run an oral only cycle again, simply because the cost-benefit ratio isnt nearly as good as running test or something.

But theres nothing wrong with just trying it once. Itll be worth it, but youll understand why injectables are the way to go by the end of it.

 

[smaretick]

Thats a good dose for oralT and you WILL make gains with it and you WILL keep them. Probably without even using PCT.

it worked for me with oralT.

But... I will not run an oral only cycle again, simply because the cost-benefit ratio isnt nearly as good as running test or something.

But theres nothing wrong with just trying it once. Itll be worth it, but youll understand why injectables are the way to go by the end of it.

I actually agree that doing OT only for a first cycle has some benefits. That's what I did for my first cycle. It was my first experience with AAS & while doing an oral-only cycle is not optimal, it's certainly a good introduction to AAS. OT is relatively mild (for an oral AAS) and, at least for me, the sides were non-existent. It also requires minimal PCT...in fact, my PCT consisted of Nolva & 'herbal-PCT' (Unleashed & Post-Cycle) from the Protein Factory (http://proteinfactory.com/). It also 'forced' me to re-evaluate both my diet (I cleaned up my diet) & training (it seemed to give me a 'psychological' boost for training).
Good luck!

 

[nzbro]

yeah ot roxz
But it only good for 4 weeks as fergie said
First cycle i did was 50mg for 4 weeks gained 5 kg lean mass lost 2% bf
No sides amazing strengh
min sides