Trying to figure out my 1rst real injectable cycle

[Blaster22]

Looking to get some info on what would be a good first injectable cycle. I have tried an injectable once before but it was Winstrol stacked with Xtren. I liked it but would like to up it to something better to give me some solid gains but still stay cut. Was thinking of running something like this.

Week 1-12 500mg Test E. 250 twice a week
Week 1-4 50mg DBOL a day to kick start the Test
Week 7-12 50mg VAR every day or 1/2 cc winni EOD

I want to run the DBOL first since I heard that the Test takes several weeks to start. If not Drol maybe beastdrol which I see is getting great reviews here. Was maybe thinking of running Tren with it as well but not sure if I want to pin that much and have heard the sides on tren are harsh. I don't want to go to crazy first cycle so I'm thinking that might good for a second run.

Currently waiting between cycles right now and not looking to start this till March. I'm also doing a log on Sarms right now on the boards as well. Right now I want to get everything ready and research properly before I start to include the right PCT. Let me know what you guys think.

 

[d_rson]

Looking to get some info on what would be a good first injectable cycle. I have tried an injectable once before but it was Winstrol stacked with Xtren. I liked it but would like to up it to something better to give me some solid gains but still stay cut. Was thinking of running something like this.

Week 1-12 500mg Test E. 250 twice a week
Week 1-4 50mg DBOL a day to kick start the Test
Week 7-12 50mg VAR every day or 1/2 cc winni EOD

I want to run the DBOL first since I heard that the Test takes several weeks to start. If not Drol maybe beastdrol which I see is getting great reviews here. Was maybe thinking of running Tren with it as well but not sure if I want to pin that much and have heard the sides on tren are harsh. I don't want to go to crazy first cycle so I'm thinking that might good for a second run.

Currently waiting between cycles right now and not looking to start this till March. I'm also doing a log on Sarms right now on the boards as well. Right now I want to get everything ready and research properly before I start to include the right PCT. Let me know what you guys think.

This is kinda similar to one I have coming up. I'm going to be running 375mg a week test-e with 8 weeks of var at the end. See my log in the logs section called "My 23 Week Plan"

First, I'd say that's too much orals. That's the thing I have been faced with because I have been looking for a kickstart too, and still haven't decided. I'd look for something that's not methylated to kickstart.

I'd also run the var week 9 through 14, right into your PCT since your test E will be hanging around in weeks 13 and 14.

What's your PCT plans?

 

[Blaster22]

This is kinda similar to one I have coming up. I'm going to be running 375mg a week test-e with 8 weeks of var at the end. See my log in the logs section called "My 23 Week Plan"

First, I'd say that's too much orals. That's the thing I have been faced with because I have been looking for a kickstart too, and still haven't decided. I'd look for something that's not methylated to kickstart.

I'd also run the var week 9 through 14, right into your PCT since your test E will be hanging around in weeks 13 and 14.

What's your PCT plans?

I wanted to do the oral just for a kickstart. Not sure what else would be good to start. I'm researching for PCT now. My last PCT was Nolva 40/40/20/20 with post cycle support and formex. I don't think it was the best so I want to really research it now and do it right. There is so much out there it gets confusing. Though still, the more I research the better it is for me. I wish I had found this site earlier. The info here is great.

 

[d_rson]

I wanted to do the oral just for a kickstart. Not sure what else would be good to start. I'm researching for PCT now. My last PCT was Nolva 40/40/20/20 with post cycle support and formex. I don't think it was the best so I want to really research it now and do it right. There is so much out there it gets confusing. Though still, the more I research the better it is for me. I wish I had found this site earlier. The info here is great.

My base PCT plans are 20/20/10/10 of nolva, 4 weeks of Sustain Alpha, and 4-5 weeks of SARMS. I'm actually starting this the last week of the Anavar, and about 1.5 weeks since the last pin of Test E. I've heard SARMS works great for giving a soft landing into PCT and overall helps maintain androgen receptor stimulation while your natural test comes back. I may run Unleased through the tail end of the cycle into PCT. I also have one amp of HCG is I really need it, but at 375mg of test not sure I'll need it.

With you on the best kickstart - I just don't want to use another oral before the Anavar. Regardless of what people say, I have read too much to know that Anavar isn't as "mild" as is generally thought. But keep in mind if you move the anavar out to weeks 9-14, you could run a kick start for 3-4 weeks in the beginning, then have 4 weeks off before the anavar. I just personally wouldn't do it.

 

[gotballs]

Im not sure running test e will give you lots of keepable gains. My reasoning is that i blow up on test and look great but when pct comes around i lose 20% or more of my gains quickly. If you want solid lean gains with minimal bloat you should try sustan or ornngren, Test prop is another good choice. Between test e and dbol you gonna be bloated like hell.

 

[Blaster22]

Im not sure running test e will give you lots of keepable gains. My reasoning is that i blow up on test and look great but when pct comes around i lose 20% or more of my gains quickly. If you want solid lean gains with minimal bloat you should try sustan or ornngren, Test prop is another good choice. Between test e and dbol you gonna be bloated like hell.

By Sustan you mean Sustanon right? How often is that dosed? Is there anything to take that helps stop the bloat. I know when I was taking xtren I really bloated and killed my libido. I figure if I can get the real stuff might as well use it and train hard and eat right to keep the gains.

 

[d_rson]

By Sustan you mean Sustanon right? How often is that dosed? Is there anything to take that helps stop the bloat. I know when I was taking xtren I really bloated and killed my libido. I figure if I can get the real stuff might as well use it and train hard and eat right to keep the gains.

I'd just run the Test E. If Test E blows you up, so will any other test (Sust, Omna, Prop as all Test), just some not quite as much as others, but still will, and it's dose dependent as well. So no matter what, if you don't want the bloat, have an anti-e or proviron handy. And keeping gains is all about having a good PCT. Losing water at the end of the cycle is not part of your gains you want to keep anyway, so if Test E puts a couple extra pounds of water on you during cycle, who cares if you lose that - it's the muscle underneath that counts, and Test E will work just as well as Sust or ther others - but again, the water is controlable and will be there with any Test.

 

[gotballs]

250 mg mon wed fri.

People like different things. I have always had better cycles of of a quick ester. It gets in there fast and out which causes less bloat and other sides. However, armidex will be good if you run test e or test cyp during cycle.

 

[RADAR]

250 mg mon wed fri.

People like different things. I have always had better cycles of of a quick ester. It gets in there fast and out which causes less bloat and other sides. However, armidex will be good if you run test e or test cyp during cycle.

Yep! ADEX will control that bloat,i have used Test alot and never bloated on it.


RADAR

 

[Blaster22]

OK, so how would this look then?

Week 1-12 500mg Test E
Week 9-14 50mg Anavar a day
Week 1-3 50mg dbol or turinabol.

Start PCT week 14.

So far looking at running Nolva 40,40,20,20

Would like feedback on what else to run
How often do you run the Dex and at what doses?
Also been reading on HCG and it seems lie it also ahould be run PCT but also on cycle. How do you cycle this?
Also just figuring out the math but a 10ml bottle of Test E at 250mg per ML would mean I would need 2 bottles for a two week cycle right?

Thanks for the help.

 

[eClenbuterol]

OK, so how would this look then?

Week 1-12 500mg Test E
Week 9-14 50mg Anavar a day
Week 1-3 50mg dbol or turinabol.

Start PCT week 14.

So far looking at running Nolva 40,40,20,20

Would like feedback on what else to run
How often do you run the Dex and at what doses?
Also been reading on HCG and it seems lie it also ahould be run PCT but also on cycle. How do you cycle this?
Also just figuring out the math but a 10ml bottle of Test E at 250mg per ML would mean I would need 2 bottles for a two week cycle right?

Thanks for the help.

you run it like this
Dbol 50 for 4 wks
you will need 3 vials to run test for 12 weeks since 2 10ml vials will last 10 weeks
var the last 6 weeks

start HCG the last 4 weeks before PCT and finish with nova

we carry nova and Arimidex and offer a discount for EF members
Cheers

 

[Blaster22]

you run it like this
Dbol 50 for 4 wks
you will need 3 vials to run test for 12 weeks since 2 10ml vials will last 10 weeks
var the last 6 weeks

start HCG the last 4 weeks before PCT and finish with nova

we carry nova and Arimidex and offer a discount for EF members
Cheers

Thanks. Looks like a good run there. How much do HCG do you run? Do I start it the 4 weeks before PCT and then keep running it through PCT. At what dosages? Also when do you want to run the Arimidex and at what dosages?