Try this for a first cycle

[Anthony Starks]

If you are looking for a good first cycle, you can't go wrong with this one. Simple and cheap, but expect good results with few sides. Enjoy!

400 - 500 mg test eth or cyp for 10 weeks

PCT (two weeks after last shot):
20 mgs Nolvadex ED for 5-6 weeks
1000iu HCG 3x week for three weeks

 

[crfpilot14]

good advice. what i think happens is people that are new to AS get on here and read all the posts about this is best and that is best and get confused as to what to do. they have the impression that they have to do the absolute best cycle first, when the best cycle is usually the simplest. like Test E 500mg/wk for 10wks with 0.25mg Adex eod to decrease the bloat, gyno, etc. then PCT as stated above. i would not recommend anyone doing a cycle with an aromatizing agent w/o some estrogen control. but that is my medical background talking. i am sure that many people do loads of test and never have problems. but that one person that tries and has trouble will wish he had spent the extra $100 on the adex. JMO.

 

[Anthony Starks]

You will already have Nolva on hand that you could start taking at the first signs of gyno. However, if you wanted to add Adex, .5mg ed should do it weeks 1-12.

 

[Mikus]

That's some a good suggestion, as there are far too many posts starting off with multiple compounds, and getting fancy with tren, winstrol, deca, etc...Keeping it simple will allow you to measure your side effects. Keep the stacking for later on down the road, because you will grow like a weed on 1 compound for a first cycle any way.

Mike

 

[Sebastionv]

That's some a good suggestion, as there are far too many posts starting off with multiple compounds, and getting fancy with tren, winstrol, deca, etc...Keeping it simple will allow you to measure your side effects. Keep the stacking for later on down the road, because you will grow like a weed on 1 compound for a first cycle any way.

Mike

can't go wrong with 1 compound just to get your feet wet. good call

 

[liquidmuscle]

everybody responds diffrently to diff compounds. i grow off of test at 400mg ew and winny 50mgs eod however my buddy did the same cycle and didnt see shit besides a few lbs literally. he got the same batch numbers and everything. i ate and trained with him so i know it wasnt anything diff granted he is 20lbs heavier

 

[Anthony Starks]

everybody responds diffrently to diff compounds. i grow off of test at 400mg ew and winny 50mgs eod however my buddy did the same cycle and didnt see shit besides a few lbs literally. he got the same batch numbers and everything. i ate and trained with him so i know it wasnt anything diff granted he is 20lbs heavier

Obviously there are going to be exceptions to every rule. Are you saying that this is not a good first cycle because your friend didn't grow off something similar? If nothing else its a good starting point, that way you know if you will grow off of test or if you are one of the small minority that won't.

 

[liquidmuscle]

Obviously there are going to be exceptions to every rule. Are you saying that this is not a good first cycle because your friend didn't grow off something similar? If nothing else its a good starting point, that way you know if you will grow off of test or if you are one of the small minority that won't.

i have grown on just test prop at 50mgs ed for 6wks and yeilded great results so yes you can/will/should grow off of just test. however i am saying some ppl grow off of just test and others need a little more. just something i have learned in this game that is all

 

[Anthony Starks]

Bump for first time users, this should save you a "design my cycle" post.

 

[Anthony Starks]

I've always wondered why there is not a sticky where a mod writes a good general first cycle to cut down on all the "first cycle" posts. I've seen some really crazy first cycle ideas on here, and I think a sticky might be long overdue.